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Delicious-Newt-5674 t1_jcfsso6 wrote
Reply to comment by dilladog in What is the rationale when bikers go to the front of a line of cars? by TonyUncleJohnny412
That's for passing on the right?
69FunnyNumberGuy420 t1_jcfsq28 wrote
Reply to comment by TonyUncleJohnny412 in What is the rationale when bikers go to the front of a line of cars? by TonyUncleJohnny412
Bicycles are not motorcycles, genius. Motorcycle laws don't apply to bicycles. PA statutes that apply to pedalcycles will very specifically say so.
If PennDOT says I can filter, I will filter.
If you've driven over the speed limit today your argument is disingenuous. You don't actually give a fuck about what the law says, you're just mad someone passed you.
Quit acting like your commute is a competition. That sort of behavior gets people killed.
TonyUncleJohnny412 OP t1_jcfsi8a wrote
Reply to comment by 69FunnyNumberGuy420 in What is the rationale when bikers go to the front of a line of cars? by TonyUncleJohnny412
“These traffic-jam tactics are reasonably safe, but in some cities, it may not be legal for a bicyclist to pass on the right or ride between lanes of traffic.”
How does this ambiguous manual override a statute from the PA legislature?
dilladog t1_jcfsdb0 wrote
Reply to comment by Delicious-Newt-5674 in What is the rationale when bikers go to the front of a line of cars? by TonyUncleJohnny412
3304?
69FunnyNumberGuy420 t1_jcfqrf0 wrote
Reply to comment by TonyUncleJohnny412 in What is the rationale when bikers go to the front of a line of cars? by TonyUncleJohnny412
You are supposed to look at the permalinked post from reddit user chuckie512 that explains exactly what part of that publication says cyclists can filter.
I'm starting to think that you made this post because you were mad that you were delayed 18 seconds by a cyclist today and you're just playing dumb.
TonyUncleJohnny412 OP t1_jcfqisz wrote
Reply to comment by 69FunnyNumberGuy420 in What is the rationale when bikers go to the front of a line of cars? by TonyUncleJohnny412
What am I supposed to be looking at there? You posted a 51 page document.
69FunnyNumberGuy420 t1_jcfplh6 wrote
Reply to comment by chuckie512 in What is the rationale when bikers go to the front of a line of cars? by TonyUncleJohnny412
In this very sub, over the course of three weeks, you will see posts saying:
A> Speeding is my god-given right as a driver
B> Cyclists need to follow the law
C> Why are cyclists allowed to do this thing that's legal for them to do
I truly do not know what the fuck these people want.
69FunnyNumberGuy420 t1_jcfp66d wrote
Reply to comment by TonyUncleJohnny412 in What is the rationale when bikers go to the front of a line of cars? by TonyUncleJohnny412
It's posted elsewhere in this very thread that you posted and can see all replies to, my man.
https://old.reddit.com/r/pittsburgh/comments/11sajlb/what_is_the_rationale_when_bikers_go_to_the_front/jcdof2n/
https://www.dot.state.pa.us/public/pubsforms/publications/pub%20380.pdf
Your commute is not a competition. Quit acting like it is.
TonyUncleJohnny412 OP t1_jcfomj9 wrote
Reply to comment by 69FunnyNumberGuy420 in What is the rationale when bikers go to the front of a line of cars? by TonyUncleJohnny412
Do you have any source at all to back you up? Lane splitting is illegal in PA.
https://codes.findlaw.com/pa/title-75-pacsa-vehicles/pa-csa-sect-75-3523.html
69FunnyNumberGuy420 t1_jcfn9m0 wrote
Reply to comment by TonyUncleJohnny412 in What is the rationale when bikers go to the front of a line of cars? by TonyUncleJohnny412
> The incident that prompted this post was a cyclist in Sq. Hill going around me at a red light on a residential street when there was nobody else behind me.
And there's nothing wrong with the cyclist doing that.
> I then had to drive behind them for a few blocks for no reason. I’m not angry,
Okay.
Just because there was no one behind you when that cyclist filtered up doesn't mean there wouldn't be anyone pulling up behind sooner or later.
Driving is not a competition. You do not have to be first. You do not have to "win". Quit treating it like a competition.
TonyUncleJohnny412 OP t1_jcfmt8c wrote
Reply to comment by 69FunnyNumberGuy420 in What is the rationale when bikers go to the front of a line of cars? by TonyUncleJohnny412
The incident that prompted this post was a cyclist in Sq. Hill going around me at a red light on a residential street when there was nobody else behind me. I then had to drive behind them for a few blocks for no reason. I’m not angry, just wondering why they would do that when there was nobody behind me.
69FunnyNumberGuy420 t1_jcflbws wrote
Reply to comment by KentuckYSnow in What is the rationale when bikers go to the front of a line of cars? by TonyUncleJohnny412
You really go out of your way to be the biggest prick in this sub, don't you?
69FunnyNumberGuy420 t1_jcfla4a wrote
Reply to comment by TonyUncleJohnny412 in What is the rationale when bikers go to the front of a line of cars? by TonyUncleJohnny412
> Just stay behind them.
Cyclists have no obligation to "just stay behind" anyone. Driving is not a competition. Cyclists filtering ahead aren't doing it just to make you sad. They are doing it so they don't get killed.
69FunnyNumberGuy420 t1_jcfl2ec wrote
So we don't die in squeeze crashes like this lady did.
https://www.wtae.com/article/arrest-in-oakland-crash-that-killed-woman-riding-bike/7479508
This particular thing exemplifies pointless driver rage in this city. Cyclists perform this innocuous act that harms no one in order to keep themselves from getting killed in a rear end crash, and drivers absolutely lose their minds over it. They act like cyclists are somehow doing it at them, instead of doing it to stay safe.
https://www.cbsnews.com/pittsburgh/news/oakland-motorist-bicyclist-road-rage-attack/
As long as drivers act like their commutes are a competition that they have to "win", our roads are never going to get any safer.
cpr4life8 t1_jcfdvy3 wrote
Reply to comment by Big_League227 in What is the rationale when bikers go to the front of a line of cars? by TonyUncleJohnny412
Sorry that you were hit. Fortunately that has never happened to me. My process is to move to whichever side gives me the best escape route in case someone coming up behind me shows no indication of slowing down. Sometimes the shoulder has plenty of room. Sometimes that's not an option but on the left there's room between cars to shield myself.
I've only had to move into an escape route a handful of times, and in all of those instances the person stopped before hitting anyone or anything But when you're sitting there exposed while stopped, and someone is approaching from behind quickly, it's better to protect yourself from what may have happened rather than regret it later after you've been hit.
I wear a jacket with high viz yellow. There's high viz yellow on my helmet as well. My integrated stop/tail/turn signals are LED. When I brake, the brake light will flash rapidly 3 times before going solid. Sometimes when I stop and someone is approaching from behind I'll squeeze the brake lever a few times to get the light flashing. Especially when I can see they're looking at their phone instead of the road. That seems to help too - but I'm also getting ready to move just in case!
Aggravating_Foot_528 t1_jcfahb5 wrote
Reply to comment by Logical-Rip-8138 in Pittsburgh to century 3 Mall by Ready-to-learn
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ScrumGuz t1_jcf9yav wrote
Safety, visibility, and keeping the flow of traffic moving. Filtering is legal for cyclists and definitely encouraged. A few years ago a woman died in Oakland after being hit by a driver from behind while waiting at a red light.
FluSolverson t1_jcf64n2 wrote
Reply to comment by da_london_09 in Pittsburgh to century 3 Mall by Ready-to-learn
Yep someone’s going to be overpaying for blinker fluid this week.
Big_League227 t1_jcf4uc3 wrote
Reply to comment by cpr4life8 in What is the rationale when bikers go to the front of a line of cars? by TonyUncleJohnny412
The only time I was ever hit on my motorcycle was at a stop sign and the yo-yo behind me just bumped into me, but yes, it was startling (only bent my license plate, fortunately.) But when I rode, in traffic at a stop sign or light, I was always taught to move to the left side, within my lane, where I was stopped. That way, I would be right in front of the driver's face behind me (so they would hipefully notice me), and, if a rear end collision was imminent, I would have an escape path closer than being in the center of the lane.
Logical-Rip-8138 t1_jcepkv4 wrote
Reply to Pittsburgh to century 3 Mall by Ready-to-learn
Helicopter.
[deleted] t1_jcedryb wrote
Reply to comment by chuckie512 in What is the rationale when bikers go to the front of a line of cars? by TonyUncleJohnny412
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TonyUncleJohnny412 OP t1_jcdzq20 wrote
Reply to comment by 213737isPrime in What is the rationale when bikers go to the front of a line of cars? by TonyUncleJohnny412
Why would a bike have to pass someone when they’re going slower than the average car? Just stay behind them.
As to your second point, we’ll never agree on that. You’re always going to think you should be able to pass people in that scenario, and I’ll always think you should have to wait your turn like everyone else on the road.
JuliaX1984 t1_jcdwpj5 wrote
Reply to comment by TonyUncleJohnny412 in What is the rationale when bikers go to the front of a line of cars? by TonyUncleJohnny412
Come on, join the dark side! It's awesome! No need to pay for gas and pumps you full of feel good hormones!
JuliaX1984 t1_jcdwk5o wrote
Reply to comment by TonyUncleJohnny412 in What is the rationale when bikers go to the front of a line of cars? by TonyUncleJohnny412
Was that a pun? Sounds exactly like a pun my dad would make, but he's not Internet savvy enough to be on here.
dilladog t1_jcft6cd wrote
Reply to comment by Delicious-Newt-5674 in What is the rationale when bikers go to the front of a line of cars? by TonyUncleJohnny412
Wouldn’t that be the same as filtering to a red light?