Yea, bro is getting downvoted, but I can't be the only one who thought the same thing when you read a headline about a young male going missing in Pgh

I wonder if the amount of property tax the city could collect from the non profits is worth it if it means transforming health care and education to for profit enterprises. I’d rather not have my healthcare and tuition to go to Wall Street investors. Since most cities have a lot of universities and non profit hospitals, why does this seem to be such a problem for Pittsburgh specifically?

I have, but it hasn't permanently doubled prices.

There's plenty available for under $250k in good locations.

$50-75 for a concert is not true. We pay like $15. It might be that expensive for Steelers or Rolling Stones or Taylor Swift, but just for a baseball game or Stage AE show, it’s $12-15ish

What event? We park in the lot by the garage next to Heinz Field for like $15, and we tailgate there for concerts.

I was going to go pick it up today. They barely even gave me notice.

I'll miss her.

is there a list somewhere?

I'm curious to see how far the Gainey Administration is willing to take the fight and if he's willing to play real hardball. Long-term, the city can't maintain it's infrastructure or services without getting some of the larger "non-profits" to contribute. What that will looks like is the big question. There has to be leverage to get UPMC to agree to a new PILOT. Whether that's revoking the tax-exempt status of certain properties, or getting down in the trenches and revoking/blocking work permits for new hospitals and administrative buildings, UPMC isn't going to do it voluntarily

payments in lieu of taxes

Woosh? Woosh.

Lol weird.. so I guess abandoning boats in the Allegheny is more common than I realized. (I mean, I guess it’s only happened twice that I’m aware of, but it’s still weird it happened twice.)

> national

municipal

Of course, this is a joyous day for Pittsburgh and, therefor, the world.

>PILOTs

What are Pilots?

No. The owner abandoned it last year and skipped out to the Free State of Florida.

The local school district taxes is where most of your property taxes come from, but which is the highest is not really an easy answer. Because townships with lower property values tend to have higher tax rates. This is the best website I've found to check property taxes https://anytimeestimate.com/property-tax/pa-allegheny-county-property-tax-calculator/

They've never had to fight that long in Pittsburgh. Peduto pulled the lawsuit shortly after Ravensthal began it, starting a pointless eight year negotiation over a non PILOT for his "One Pittsburgh" plan that got us no where. But in hospitals they bought that where a PILOT was in place, UPMC has honored it:

https://www.publicsource.org/erie-hospital-pilot-upmc-ahn-pittsburgh-gainey

"In 2020, Erie collected $13.39 per capita in PILOT contributions. Pittsburgh collected $1.07."

damn...

I stand corrected. I had no idea they did this

> Close what?

Close to spelling bureaucrat.

Best one I've had recently was at El Pizzaiola in Warrendale.

It's $36 million/year in total untaxed property, including parcels owned by the City of Pittsburgh. The tax value of the parcels on this list isn't anywhere close to that amount.

This is indeed the strategy, although it remains unclear whether it will work. UPMC has shown itself willing to spend huge sums of money on legal fees to fight taxation, even in excess of the initial tax amount itself. They might decide to fight a long legal battle now over the small stuff, even if they don't expect to win because it will delay and deter future efforts to tax the big stuff. UPMC can drain the cities coffers with legal fees and tie this effort up in court for long enough, they come out ahead.

UPMC has explicitly threatened to bankrupt the city with legal fees if their tax exempt status is revoked entirely. I suspect even trying to tax them at the edges is going to be a fight.

Bad advice. I know someone that had a Tree of Heaven pop up in his yard. Before we had a chance to treat it with herbicide, his landscaper hacked it down with hedge trimmers. Couple weeks later we found 8 new Tree of Heaven sprouts.

The Penn State Ag Extension and PA Dept of Agriculture specifically recommend not cutting down these damn trees. Triclopyr is the recommended herbicide, and there are several ways to apply it depending on size of the plant and time of year.

It gives a chance to escalate during possible negotiations too imho.

Some really interesting stuff from the list of parcels: one is owned by a fired cop convicted of sexual abuse. I have no clue how it got non profit status. Another is a museum that seems mostly to be a wedding venue and another is a private swimming pool in a development. This is only after auditing the first 10% of properties.

UPMC insurance coverage/payout is horrible. The company loses money on the non-profit side because the for-profit side nickels and dimes them.