Askew is, in my opinion, one of the most inclusive places you can go alone. And the staff knows it, and takes their responsibility very seriously in keeping it that way. Some of the live local shows aren't the best talent wise, but that's an important part of the music scene in all cities.

Side note - I had the opportunity to work with the owners in a past job and can't speak highly enough about them. If anyone were to bother you, I can confidently say the owners would have your back and ensure you feel safe while you're in their space.

Portuguese immigration is live and well. In fact it's lot of them are here illegally due to overstayed/expired visas.

Because esl is new. They offered Spanish here and in newbedford They offered Portuguese.

Don't know why you think it's a bad thing? It was made to better help kids adapt to life in the us.

Providence has a teacher problem because it has a morale problem.

Imagine you are fresh out of college and one job has good pay and benefits, fixed hours, no negative press, and supportive upper management. Another job has the same pay and benefits, fixed hours, very negative press about its employees (soon yourself), and upper management that is openly antagonistic about its workers. Your wife is probably very aware of this kind of dynamic district to district.

Overall, a state takeover means a lot of control. So a district like Johnston (which I hear mixed reviews from grads) is going to have a lot more flexibility with curriculum and testing (whether it is flexible all depends on the district culture). Providence is going to have less room to bend.

I think whatever happens your kid will be fine with a two very involved parents, one of which is a teacher.

edit: you should sit on a school board meeting for both. I believed Providence has one tonight that can be accessed remotely.

From a lived experience and currently still live here that is the data. If you have lived here for over 30-40 years just look around not hard to tell.

I don't see anyone with countering data to prove what I said wrong either

"Look at the demographics!"

"I don't have them do you?"

"No but obviously they prove me right"

I wasn't here in the 80's but based on US history time line immigration laws were relaxed to an extent. But from my readings mid 70's early 80's Providence saw many people come here in as economic migrants, war refugees, from West Africa, Central America, Southeast Asia, Caribbean, etc.

Now you barely see new migration from West Africa, or Southeast Asia or even Southern Europe. Immigration lack of enforcement or turning the blind eye is what you see currently for Providence's demographic. I'm sure earlier groups ( Italians, Irish, Portuguese ) benefitted from blind eye policies prior as well back when most didn't even have a birth certificate or social security card.

And maybe it should have been as it would have been a benefit to those students?

What were the demographics in the 80s and 90s? I don't have historical data on hand.

So you're going to personally interview and filter out all the creepy old men?

In theory no but when it's allocated for 1 group only then yes. Look at Providence school demographics from the 80's 90's compared to now. Tell me you don't see a major difference.

I can't speak for everyone but I don't recall ESL being offered in my elementary school despite having a good percentage of non English speakers.

Honestly the ordinance is written more to prevent people from owning chickens without actually banning them.

To actually own a chicken and have it be "happy" you'll want for 1 chicken per about 100 square feet of free roaming space. Then have a ratio of 1.5chickens per 100sqft. You'll also want to have them free roam in dirt or grass or actual natural flooring as it allows them to forage. Chicken coops are simply a nesting/sleeping space, nothing crazy. Some milk crates in a corner with a roof and some branches Up top to let them perch and sleep. You'll want to cut the flight feathers off to prevent them from flying away, but after a few months of feeding and providing space nesting they will always come back after a while. You can play and socialize with them enough where they will recognize you and return affection. Some people do keep chickens and hens as pets with diapers indoors too.

Biggest thing especially in the city is keeping predators away. Rats, cats, possums, raccoons all will get Into your backyard and have a feast. And with how cheap chick's are or used to be, people can carelessly keep buying more and keep feeding the rats basically.

I have friends that went to school in Johnston during the 90's and was shocked to find out they actually had ESL (English As A Second Language). Not sure who it was geared to possibly new Italian immigrants at one point.

I think Johnston may have a little more non white students compared to the 90's but I doubt its like night and day there now. Still you can see some riff raff seeping in there along with some tenured shitheads.

I guess we are actually fortunate Providence isn't as " diverse " as it should be at least from a numerical standpoint. Imagine more East Asian kids ( mainly Chinese, Korean ) come here and kids actually had to compete with them in academics. Shit show waiting to happen like in NYC with the ex mayor DiBlasio and supporters trying to suppress their merit.

Do.... do you think bilingual teachers and dual language classes are a bad idea?

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It's definitely a strange situation. Our taxes are Providence but literally everything else is Johnston. The zip code is a Johnston zip code but when we get mail from town hall (Providence) the zip code isn't even the same but it is the Johnston zip code online. In any case, my kids are mixed race, I'm Hispanic and my wife is white. We want them to be in a well integrated school system, but from what I can tell I think Johnston is, too. Especially, at the expense of a better education/experience. Anyway, there def were some challenges in the school system when I was coming up. Can't say I was the most prepared for college, but fortunately I've always been studious and hardworking and caught up quickly. Given what you are saying, based on your friends experience, I'm assuming that our option will be Johnston. We've only received mail from them. The Providence angle came from daycare, which she goes to a Providence daycare and that is where we had to fill out paperwork for a district representative to visit the daycare and analyze all of the kids entering kindergarten. Originally, we were not all that concerned but it seems like it is a shit show right now in PPSD.

I mean they hired Kelly bates after nbc10 fired her.

There's a pretty sharp divide now between the city and the surrounding schools. Back when I went in the early 2000s schools were pretty racially diverse and Inclusove to all. Field trips, lots of honors students, school events, sports etc.

I have younger relatives in it now. From what I've heard from them it's pretty shitty, even for someone like me an hispanic who is part of the shitty part of providence according to some here on this reddit. There are no field trips or extra curriculum activities even since before covid. Many schools dont let you take books home, either text books or reading books. Classroom vibe is a mess with too many wannabe "bad/hood" kids. Teachers no longer care. Big population of foreign born/ migrants that bully the US born kids

I would say unless you need some good aftercare options k and elementary school will be good in that regard. Or if you want your kid to attend classical, it still retains alot of that old schooling on top of being progressive and still the top school in RI.

It would be Anthony Carnevale for elementary.

Some chickens and loud music and you too can have a “shitty neighborhood”.

There’s chickens behind the rochambeau library (in the house behind that is). Not library property.

Assessors database should have the info on lot sizes.

I’ll be honest, reading this through made me want to get a tape measure out and check out where I could put a chicken coop and figure out how many chickens I could keep.

damn I want tge dresser too but not the competition

I have a friend who went through some shit like this. Purchased a house in Cranston but right on the Prov/Cranston line towards Washington Park.

Now don't quote me verbatim and only going from memory of the story he told me. He registered his kid to go to school in Cranston, since that's where he lived duh but they said the kid had to go to school in Providence huh and there were no more spots in Cranston.

End result was his kid went to school in Providence and he received some property tax refund from the city of Cranston. Not sure how long this went on but they eventually sold the house and moved to North Providence.

Providence schools with the exception of some have been shit since the 90's and I only found this out in the late 2010's way after I graduated from school. Truth be told , they are pushing for more Bilingual teachers and dual classes for Spanish says a whole lot right there. Sure didn't see them pushing for Ebonics like in Oakland during the 90's lol. I recall going to school with country bumpkin parents that do not speak a European language at home despite coming from a former European colony couldn't help me with shit at home. No extra language resources. We were just thrown in with regular kids and grasped English just fine minus some. But this is a totally new day and time with many new factors. Not sure what the outcome if I were in the present.

Sec. 4-37.3. - Maximum chicken hens allowed. The owner of any dwelling may keep or permit to be kept on the lot containing the dwelling, one (1) hen per eight hundred (800) square feet of total lot area, with a maximum of six (6) on any lot, provided that:

(1) No person shall keep any rooster;

(2) All chicken hens must be provided with both a hen house (coop) and a fenced outdoor enclosure, subject to the following provisions: a. The hen house must be covered, predator resistant, and well-ventilated; b. The hen house must provide a minimum of two (2) square feet per chicken; c. The hen house must be kept clean, dry, and sanitary at all times; manure must be composted in enclosed bins; d. The hen house must be located upon a permeable surface that prevents waste run-off; e. The hen house must be located at least twenty (20) feet from any dwelling; f. The fenced outdoor enclosure must adequately contain the chicken hens; g. The fenced outdoor enclosure must be kept clean and sanitary at all times; manure must be composted in enclosed bins; h. The hen house must provide the chicken hens with adequate protection from the elements and inclement weather and provide for the chicken hens good health and prevent any unnecessary or unjustified suffering; and i. The owner of the hen(s) must be a resident of said dwelling.

(3) No hen house (coop) shall be built onto any shared fence;

(4) No chicken hens may be kept or raised within the dwelling.

(5) All chicken hens must be fed subject to the requirements of section 12-118, and feed must be stored securely;

(6) No chicken hen may be slaughtered except subject to the requirements of section 10-104 et seq. and of the zoning ordinance;

(7) All chicken hens are subject to the nuisance provisions set forth in section 4-47, subsections (2) and (3); and

(8) All chicken hens must be confined between the hours of 9:00 p.m. and 8:00 a.m.

As used herein, "lot" shall mean one (1) or more parcels of land which are contiguous and are under the same ownership according to the tax assessor's records and which are zoned residential or are residential as a legal nonconforming use pursuant to the zoning ordinance.