Recent comments in /f/providence

allhailthehale t1_j6hmw9h wrote

To be clear to those reading who don't live near Dexter Park: I don't think we should just accept their assertions.

There's a lot of people wading into the debate here, but very few of them appear to actually use the park on a daily basis. Most of us who do are saying that we have not observed this. And OP seems to be using things that happened 6 months ago to support his argument, lol.

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Dinosaur_Ass_Tattoos OP t1_j6hllxk wrote

This line follows an old interurban route between Providence and Fall River and then continues to New Bedford. With the coming of the South Coast Rail project, this would be even more useful by providing a connection between stations along the South Coast extension and Providence. The biggest issues would likely be getting through Ocean Grove, where 5 or 6 homes have been built on the ROW, and tunneling under I-195 in Fall River. The alternative to taking the homes in Ocean Grove would be to use a power line ROW from the RI/MA state line to the Taunton River, although connecting to that presents a challenge as well, albeit smaller. This hits the downtowns of all 3 as well as Warren and Barrington and would provide an alternative to I-195. The idea would be something more along the lines of a regional line, similar to the old interurban operation, with shorter 3-4 electric trains rather than MBTA diesel hauled trains.

Feel free to suggest any infill stations. Thoughts? Map here

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Mountain_Bill5743 t1_j6ghzgu wrote

Good observations. I think what makes that area so unusual is that it used to be priced accordingly-- so it was a bit of a mixed bag, but affordable so you were used to dealing with some of the homelessness and poverty. Now, it's like it's become Williamsburg and priced accordingly with extremely high rent and 600k starter homes. So I think some of the people have no idea what to expect when they're moving in (if they're new) and maybe the abject poverty that is adjacent to the area is jarring at those obscene prices. I will admit that I am unfamiliar with what sounds like a rushed implementation of this program at the armory and how that has changed things recently, but it sounds like maybe stuff has gotten fairly challenging.

I think a lot of the homeowners in the area who have been there for a few decades have seen the area change over the years from what was "hard to have a mortgage approved" to bordering on upper middle class and might be able to shrug it off more, but maybe not. It's a weird place.

People are so excited to see their real estate values go up,up,up here, but we are in for a rough ride as inequality and need ramps up.

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Mountain_Bill5743 t1_j6g7qhh wrote

I mean, yeah that's got sketch vibes, so I'd tread lightly because this is probably going to be the first but not the last red flag. I lived somewhere once where something seemed off when we signed and it was a nightmare of a year including when we tried to get our security deposit back. So I'd cautiously proceed-- all the LLs I mentioned were by the books and protected themselves, but this is way different. Also, this gives me "if I don't like you and your gf I will also do sketchy things to push you out" vibes since they've sort of given you that playbook. I'd go off of whatever vibes you get tomorrow, but when I lived in buildings run where they were outspoken about sketchy stuff like that they were usually pushing boundaries a lot (avoiding their taxes, not providing stuff on the lease, stiffing maintenance workers, not providing/deducting security deposit like legally required).

Also good it would be lower because 2600 that area is....high. I would avoid Rochambeau and Camp intersection possibly too (feel free to dm me as you proceed with this process). Also you should know that in RI they can't ask for last months rent too-- it's weird to me how many people move here from MA and buy and then ask for more than 2 months up front when it's illegal.

I saw one place asking for 3 months (first, sec, and last) and the owner seemed nice, but I later saw they listed and sold only a few months later. If I had fallen for that, I probably would have never seen that money again once it changed hands-- glad I went with my gut and picked a different place.

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slinkygay t1_j6g23r9 wrote

I guess I’m confused about how you can simultaneously have permanent housing and be unable to stay in that housing. Realistically, no one has a comfortable safe indoor place to stay and decides “spending the night in sub-thirty temperatures in the Armory sounds better.” Maybe “permanent housing” means family that they are no longer welcome to stay w because of their addiction? If that’s the case, then they don’t have permanent housing

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allymilano t1_j6g1fzw wrote

Having volunteered at the armory, they don’t have access to any real bathrooms which is RIDICULOUS. They do have multiple porta potties outside which isnt ideal or sustainable.

Instead of blaming those who are unhoused or taking the NIMBY (Yes to the cause, but Not In My Back Yard) perspective we need to incorporate this population and support them. Now is the time to PUSH the government to do what they should have done so long ago. Get people subsided housing. Give then rapidly deployable shelters. Give them warming centers with plumbing???

They also forced people off the statehouse lawn a few weeks ago and SLASHED THEIR TENTS??? Thats like somebody taking a wrecking ball to your house. Thats all they have. Disgusting.

I completely understand that having people who may be under the influence around your house may not be ideal but having that warming shelter is saving lives. Its also helping to clean up the rest of the city so much. People complain about unhoused people throughout the city then don’t like it when the shelters are built near them.

My main point I suppose is that your concerns are SO understandable. But take it to the govt. we need to use our voices to advocate for the unhoused population and it will benefit you in the long run. Advocate for them by asking for better plumbing and facilities to clean up the area, and more mental health support to help people suffering from substance use disorders. LEAN ON THE GOVERNMENT HARD

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