Oh yeah, good analogy with sledding. I kept thinking about mountain biking which is allowed (and expressly encouraged) in a bunch of municipal parks around, and which also must have a pretty healthy injury rate too...but I guess not as high as sledding...?

Does the state actually have any liability beyond gross negligence in state parks? I guess I've just been assuming it's all at your own risk, and that I can't get the state to pay my bill if I trip while hiking and break a pinky finger.

>Real solutions aren't just bitching about how you don't like seeing bikes and trying to ban them.

Real solutions are when other people pay for my hobby so I don’t make their lives miserable.

~NinjaSant4, probably.

Legal riding spots exist. Why aren’t you making the trek to Richmond?

No, they don't have liability insurance. It's a state park. You use it at your own discretion.

The insurance state parks carry is for negligent upkeep - a bridge collapsing, a bear that was reported dangerous being allowed to continue hanging in campground ect. It is not because someone might try to sue for getting injured.

Glad you've literally never done a physical sport because you'd know how things work. Lol.

Plenty of public dirt bike courses that are unmonitored. Show me the lawsuits. Otherwise you are full of shit.

You can start down south and work your way up. Show me the rider being injured and suing the municipality. Otherwise...looks like I know what Im talking about

Thank you, I truly appreciate it.

I enjoy target shooting, but if I could snap my fingers and have every firearm gone I probably would. I 100% agree on defense.

Because thats how we have dealt with other issues, right? Trinity skate park was bought by a skate club right?

Real solutions aren't just bitching about how you don't like seeing bikes and trying to ban them.

Lol, no that isn't the point of riding them on the street. If you weren't an ignorant fuck you'd know that those bikes can be registered (and often the hordes you see have a mix of legal and illegal bikes).

Tell me again how you know better than historical fact. Skateboarding caused issues, build a park and suddenly no issue. Legal graffiti parks? Suddenly less vandalism.

Cities with spaces to ride legally don't deal with people riding in their streets lol. Please be more of a NIMBY

And - skateboarding fell out of fashion? How come skateparks are frequently filled and looking for more space???

Lie more. Just say you want to hit people on their dirt bike because you have no self control.

Jeez guys. They’re human beings. I know you get annoyed by these guys on the roads. But a lot of these comments are borderline psychotic.

They used to be used for exactly this back in the 70's and 80's. I remember as a kid driving up 95 and specifically waiting to get to that part of the highway to watch them ride for a couple of seconds. Then someone got hurt (naturally) and they closed the land for this use. Same thing has happened at parks and hills all over the northeast for sledding- one person gets hurt, everyone suffers the consequences. Insurance companies up the cost of coverage and it just becomes cheaper for municipalities to close everything off.

>I strongly disapprove of their behavior, but I don't want them to die.

I completely agree too. The callousness in these threads is shocking. Of course the riders are completely wrong in several ways, but that doesn't mean their death should be enjoyed.

I can't tell you how many videos here i see of idiots driving bikes, swerving at oncoming traffic only to swerve away at the last second..

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All i have to say is, HA HA..

Download the RIPTA Wave app so you don’t have to worry about having exact change, makes it a lot easier. But this route should be completely manageable, though it will take you a while. Kennedy Plaza is fine, just keep to yourself and no one will bother you (if they do, it’ll likely just be asking for money).

My son and I made the mistake with the 66 bus at CCRI! Both buses arrived at about the same time, but we didn’t know there were two, so we just got on the first one that came. Realized the mistake while heading south on 95! Got off at the train station and waited for the bus north! At least there was the train to providence as our backup. 😂

>I don’t skateboard, so I don’t know which venues allow it and which don’t

If you don't know, then why are you here confidently spouting conjecture about it?

You will be fine. It's a long trip. If you have to wait at Kennedy Plaza, the close coffee shops are Bolt on Washington St and Small Point on Westminster.

Sad and reckless but don’t forget these kids had moms and families. RIP.

The whole point of riding an unregistered, illegal bike on the street is the fact that you're not supposed to be on the street. Why would you want to go to some track where no one will see you? And how are you going to get there? Are you going to load your bike on a trailer that's pulled by your $75k SUV and unload it there? I don't think so.

Hey, many of us agree that these dirt bikes and ATVs are trash, but two young adults are dead. Plus, some random woman who did nothing wrong has to spend the rest of her life coming to terms with having been involved in two people's death. This isn't the time to be cheering or celebrating anything.

Sad facts, but I'd be lying if I said I didn't chuckle a little bit at this.

The disconnect is the jump from riding recklessly to self defense.

Yes you have the right to defend yourself, even with a firearm. Why self defense and ATVs are in the same scenario is the logic problem. This the the problem with “whataboutism” arguments, when topics jump around things get conflated. If you keep them separate, things make sense.

Reckless riding on ATVs -> Cops should do more about them

Woman being assaulted -> Yea, she should be able to defend herself

The post that started with: Reckless riding on ATVs -> Then the immediate response of “This is why we need the 2nd amendment” (There’s the jump that is not helpful)

When you argue/debate, you can’t do those abrupt whataboutism turns to effectively change the subject. You need clear break points in the conversation line and context to set them up. Otherwise you get hyperbolic results like “Kids on ATVs -> Shoot them”

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From the standpoint of liability, I’d do the same. I get it.

I fly in today for the weekend to see what I can learn in person. It’s encouraging at least you eventually found something. Thank you for taking the time to respond.

I take RIPTA every day for a 30+ mile commute. It's fine, and here are some tips to help:

• Have exact change in $1 bills - the fare boxes don't make change. Alternatively, use the RIPTA Wave app for your fare.

• Double check to make sure the bus is going in the right direction. You could take the 66 from the airport to downtown, but the 66 going south also stops in the same spot. Ask the driver if they're going to Providence as you get on.

• As noted, Kennedy Plaza can be unsettling at night. What time are you planning to be there?

I'm happy to answer any questions you might have. Have a good trip!

I’m pretty sure I never said people shouldn’t defend themselves buuuuut you have been following this thread quite closely so you’re probably right. Whatever you say big guy.