Submitted by u-turnsonthehighway t3_ygoe3k in rva
Don’t say Nate’s I swear to god
Submitted by u-turnsonthehighway t3_ygoe3k in rva
Don’t say Nate’s I swear to god
I’ve had nate’s so many times
The last really good bagel sandwich I’ve had was at Cupertino’s NY Bagel and Deli on Main St. when I worked down there (2014). I see they moved that location out to the West End near Innsbrook, though.
Chewy's is a good bagel closest thing to a NYC in town if that's what you're looking for.
They don't have a big line for nothing! Excellent breakfast sammies.
Chewys does not attempt to make a nyc-style bagel. They proudly hang this art on their wall: https://imgur.com/a/KjfGcqS
Go to Bodos in Charlottesville for a better bagel
My wife is from NYC and swears off any bagel not from the city. We went to Cupertino’ NY Bagels and Deli (in Henrico) and she took a bite of mine and immediately change her tune. We then asked about sourcing and learned they get their bagels from the city. Then I heard the same old, “it’s the city’s water that makes it taste so good” nonsense. Good bagel. Good lox.
This city has a major lack of good breakfast bagels and sandwiches. I will throw down with the next person who gives me a chewys or nates bagel bro I swear to God. I hate being the NY stereotype but I was born and raised there and you can sneeze and get a better bagel there than the best thing RVA has got to offer. I'm sorry to those who can't handle the truth.
Nate’s is the answer IF they get your order right. People who say Nate’s doesn’t have good bagels are just mad their order was wrong (which is an appropriate action, tbf).
Being a bagel snob, so hot right now.
It's fine. I am comfortable in my knowledge that the people downvoting me have never had a good breakfast sandwich.
Chewy’s is most certainly not an NYC bagel. I had a breakfast sandwich from there a few days ago and it was delicious, but the bagel itself is soft and pillowy…nowhere near NYC style.
I have, I’m just comfortable in my understanding that different areas have different foods and it is foolish to expect all areas to have the special foods that you like. Ny has better bagels, California has better tacos, big deal.
Is it so wrong for a nice jewish boy to complain about his cultural heritage? Am I not allowed to say this lmao
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Chewy’s w lox is fantastic
> you can sneeze and get a better bagel there than the best thing RVA has got to offer.
Facts.
Bodos in Charlottesville
They hated him because he spoke the truth
The food theorists on YouTube did a story on New York pizza and one of their tests was to make their own pizza with water from different locations and it apparently made quite the difference.
They tested the water and the main difference was the amount of fluoride, which will kill the yeast in the dough (different rates for different waters) and that’s enough to make a difference in the final product
Yeah or learn how to make your own
Your best bagel sandwich is possible if you get a Chewy's bagel and bring it to Nate's and have Nate's make the sandwich.
Look at that… Science prevails? I will tell my wife she may be correct but further testing is still required. Specifically need to continue to try the lox.
I haven't had their sandwiches but addicted to their bagels. The super cinnamon bagel, lightly toasted, with honey walnut was one of the best breakfast foods I've ever put in my mouth. Jalapeno cheddar and asiago bagels also awesome. Husband says the everything was excellent too.
Holy fucking shit the debate summed up in one sentence. Sacrilegious they don't have sausage, but the bagels are SO much better than Nate's bread circles. Preach
Cupertinos
Check out greenbriar on Main Street it’s so good
Y'know, some people have these sandwiches, but they don't come from shops. They make them themselves.
Lived in Cville for 4 years and I really don’t understand the hype, Bodo’s bagels are so painfully mid even Nate’s is better
I know I stan for it — hard — but have you tried Wawa? Either the ones by the register, or, their made-to-order? It’s a solid option depending on how you want your sandwich.
Nate’s is much closer to NY style than Chewy’s. Chewy’s bagels are sourdough, which makes them interesting/unique/delicious, but very different flavor and texture compared to an NY bagel.
I like the bagel sandwichs at Stir crazy in Northside. The bagel isn't as good as chewys but they do a good job with the variety of bagel sandwichs they have and much better coffee if that is something you like to pair with it. Plus the people there are great.
Drive to Bodo’s
I've heard that, but I don't believe that's correct. It also doesn't match my experience as a pizza freak that makes his own pizza dough. The big and obvious difference is technique, no one outside NYC metro knows how to make pizza dough I swear (exaggeration but...)
It also doesn't explain all the well known good places outside of new york.
The big issue here is no one spends time on the dough. It's a 4 day process for me, which used to be normal in NYC. No one making dough, with SUGAR, the same day they use it will turn out. a decent pizza dough ever.
I was talking with one of the partners at Mary Angelas once, the Italian guy, and asked him. He basically said Richmonders are savages who don't know what good pizza tastes like, and took the heart out of it for him, so why bother with all the effort?
tl;dr, it's not the water, it's the consumers demanding competence
I like Cupertino's Lumberjack after working out.
Can someone please explain the refusal to toast the bagel? Not trying to start anything but that was the weirdest thing to me. Like yes it’s fresh but bagels are better with a slight crunch?
Cupertinos is solid as a native Philadelphian
They made 4 pizzas in the same day with the same techniques and the same ingredients except for the water. It’s science, and the water (fluoride amount) legitimately makes a difference. Not specifically in taste, but in how the dough cooks and rises.
Also people everywhere say NYC pizza is better than any NYC style pizza made anywhere else, it’s not just people in Richmond, so shitting on people who live here about this specific thing seems out of place.
Cupertinos is the best bagel in the Richmond area. I can’t really speak to their sandwiches, but the quality of that bagel is suuuuuuper good.
Ate bodos for three years of grad school and it’s fine. Don’t understand any of the actual hype around it though. It’s cheap calories, and that’s why I went there.
I’ve only been here a few months but my girlfriend and I are really good at eating I think. Also I would have to say breakfast sandwiches are my favorite food group.
We live in Manchester and have gone to Cafe Zata three or so times and gotten various combinations of breakfast sandwich and they’ve all been amazing
I don't mind their bagels, the gaping asshole that runs the register most of the time is my biggest issue with them.
Is that why Mary Angela's pizza isn't very good?
For a basic breakfast sandwich, I like Roastology's
? And acting like NYC is the only place a good piece of pizza can be made is the dumbest thing ever. Go to napoli
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I didn’t say “good” I said the water makes the difference in the crust. FFs
I liked the one from Roastology. Am definitely not a bagel expert so make what you will of my input.
Literally the only answer. They make bagels fresh every morning. Also the use exclusively jersey made meats from Thumanns. It's as close to new York you are gunna get. Also screw Boars head
I like Nate's so Chewy's must be to die for. What's the wait like at Chewys? Nate's takes foreeeever some mornings, so I started getting a bagel sliced and making the rest at home.
Gtfo with that untoasted circular bread. It reminds me more of the Midwest than New York.
Look man, normally I just ignore you, ya know live and let live and all that.
And I myself am a fan of wawa; as a blue collar worker I really do start most of my days with a bacon egg and cheese croissant and one of their dogshit burritos.
But you need to acknowledge that their food isn't good. And that's okay, it's not why people go there. But it's not good food. It's just available.
A better life is possible for you.
*Edit: and also their bagels fucking suck. They're specifically the worst sizzli option. Croissant gang or bust.
I heard it was a time issue
Perlys
They supposedly bring or have a shipment of New York bagels every day
Roastology’s would be better if they didn’t panini press them tbh
It's getting more and more hellish, as I think its popularity is still peaking, but it has never taken me more than 10 mins and I always go on Saturday mornings at varying times between like 9a-12p.
Went earlier today at noon to surpass the rush and it took 5 mins! They're quick to serve, and the line is deceptive b/c their indoor space is so small that the line is always out the door.
Blackhand
Well that’s just, like, your opinion man.
nates doesn't taste nearly as good as Bodo's and nate's prices are not worth the bagel you get.
Late to the show, but I may be surprised if you get a better breakfast bagel sandwich than one from
Cafe Zata
I never would have found it if my gf didn't live right by it in Manchester. Odd hours, older couple own it and the husband is in and out of medical treatment so they often change hours.
Sausage+egg+horse radish cheddar on a jalapeno bagel... And for 5ish $ it's kind of GOATed
100% accurate that bodo’s prices beat nates any day, but idk bodo’s has never tasted that good to me it’s only been worth it because of the cheap price
10 min is nothing. Nate's has taken up to an hour in recent history on buys days. 15 min would be fast for them.
Their bagels are awesome!
Yes this. Hours are limited. Call ahead for pickup.
I’ve never been to Bodo’s and I’m not a local, but I never toast bagels. A fresh bagel has the perfect texture already if it’s made properly
I’m honestly not a huge fan. They’re okay, but I fucking loveeeee everything seasoning and their everything is severely lacking in the seasoning part of an everything bagel. I liked Nate’s a lot more.
>Richmonders are savages who don't know what good pizza tastes like, and took the heart out of it for him,
He is not wrong.
Napoli style and NYC style are two different things.
If you've ever been to bodos on the weekend you'd understand. Literally was out there today, line was out the door and past the end of the building into the bushes, yet I was in and out in 20 minutes flat. The bagels are so fresh that they're warm without toasting, and adding a toasting station would destroy the methodology of the business.
Bodos is a lot like chickfila, the food is better than average but what makes it elite is the speed and the service.
Bodos ain't perfect, but a 7/10 bagel with 10/10 speed 10/10 service and 10/10 price is deserving of hype
This is the answer! Far and away my favorite Bagel anywhere in RVA.
Especially if you get the fish board
While Chewy's does have good bagels, their managerial practices should be made a point of consideration. Without delving into too much detail: allegedly chewy's does a poor job of accommodating their employees and use fear tactics to try and dissuade any action taken against them through things like the labor board or EEOC.
You're better off at Nathan's IMO, plus they've got way better options for bagel types
Smoky Mug.
My family and I did a side by side comparison for three of the most popular bagel places in town: Chewy’s, Nate’s, and Cupertino’s. All everything bagels, all toasted, all tried first plain, then with cream cheese.
Results were 100% unanimous: Chewy’s bagels were the absolute best, followed by Nate’s, then Cupertino’s. But that said, they were ALL good, and until then, Cupertino’s had been our favorite.
I haven’t tried anything besides a toasted bagel with cream cheese at Chewy’s and Nate’s, but I have had a sandwich at Cupertino’s. I am a big fan of their chicken salad on an everything bagel in particular. I strongly recommend this place!
I agree. I like the bagel fresh, warmed, but not toasted.
Sadly, you can't. Sorry if that's an unpopular take.
7/10 bagel is super generous haha but I’m definitely in the minority considering how popular it is in cville
You and me could probably grab a meal together and be happy. I also like Wawa bagel sandwiches, but my favorite is McDonald’s (if they don’t burn the bagel which is a big if). Ducking for cover now 😊
Surrounding Counties in Henrico, off of Three Chopt road.
I love their chicken cutlet egg and cheese on a bagel. The cutlet tastes like it’s made in some little Italian grandmothers kitchen on a pan that is 60+ years old and perfectly seasoned.
I had a bagel sandwich from Smokey Mug this morning and it was fantastic.
Cupertinos!!
Yeah the owner is super chill and the food there is amazing
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Cupertinos all day
#CUPERTINOS
Idk why people are posting anything else
The water theory also doesn't explain why there are awesome and just "okay" pizza places in Manhattan.
No. The water theory is stupid. Go to JoJo's. Or Even Christian's can be pretty decent.
Nahh.. bodos bagel in Charlottesville is the BEST! They have a bagel door knob to prove it!
The previous poster said one of the partners for Mary Angela's said richmonders don't know good pizza so there is no reason to bother. My comment had nothing to do with the water.
Absolutely . It's a monster.
Yeah I misinterpreted that comment thread. Sorry. I stand by my opinion that it's not the water...but I see now that's not what you were talking about.
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That actually blows my mind. I was so insanely unimpressed w their bagels every single time. I seriously can’t tell if they’re just reshaping bread in the back or not.
Finally someone said the quiet part out loud. That dude totally ruins a simple experience. I just want a bagel, no need to be a total dickhead about it.
Summed it up perfectly. Bread circles!
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Yep Stir Crazy is a gem
JoJo's is the full NYC experience ha, great pizza, great atmosphere.
That said 360 pizza in Mechanicsville is up there for the best pizza. Just need to have them cook it well done.
Dante's in colonial heights it's pretty amazing though.
I hate Blackhand but they do make great sandwiches
That's like 95% of Richmond businesses unfortunately
Pop's used to have real bagels but they went out of business. Some places still make good sandwiches but yeah, I haven't found a comparable bagel recently.
Yep Pop's was the real deal. There are some other good sandwiches but they were miles above everyone else
Drive an hour and 15 minutes to Charlottesville and got to Bodos! Hahaha No for real though, both chewys and Nate’s are good bagels!
He made my gf cry one day when she went to pick up our food. Final straw for me. I've also seen a couple similar stories in this sub.
Reasonable people can disagree on which bagel place makes the best bagel, but I can't imagine thinking anywhere in town makes a better bagel sandwich than Cupertino's.
Your kitchen.
This city is full of food snobs who don’t mind paying a premium for mediocre food.
no it really isn't. This has been discussed ad infinitum in the pizza world and proved wrong over and over again.
The best Pizza state is often though to be Connecticut. Seriously. New Jersey also has great pizza. Neither of them use NYC water.
The yeast thing actually makes no sense if you make pizza. Check out how a retarded rise works. They probably just ignored that. You WANT slow and low yeast activity.
yeah. They literally told me they found no one gave a shit, so they gave up. It's all about the toppings when it comes to sales.
For a while I could make a special request and get a good pizza
He is totally right. And I am going to annoy everyone who has never eaten pizza north of new jersey by saying it.
I was given a free Papa Johns pizza the other day. Oh my god was it bad in every way. It made me cry to think of how many people think of that as pizza
They are the best! Also, their perogies are to die for.
Yes! They use Chewy's and remind me of a slightly "fancier" bodega-style breakfast sandwich taste-wise. Just watch for the weird weekend breakfast hours.
Can we finally walk in there or are they acting like it's still March 2020 and doing the pickup only thing?
It's completely open now, has been for a while. I only order online so I've never had this nightmare experience apparently. Orders are just grab and go when you walk in.
Drive to Charlottesville. Bodo's is the answer.
Greenbrier’s bagel sammies SLAP
bruxalle t1_iu9jj9z wrote
Nate’s.