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10_Virtues t1_j6ieyhq wrote

Wouldn’t it be easier to say Hairdressers are exposed to unlabeled chemicals. Which would be illegal under OSHA since employers are supposed to provide SDS and clear labels for any chemicals.

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Spiridor t1_j6idn3m wrote

I mean to be fair, the headline seems to be insinuating some kind of racial bias.

Even if the sample was only black/Latino hair dressers, if the chemicals are commonly used in the industry there should be no need to mention race at all.

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Fromnowhere2nowhere t1_j6ic3sh wrote

If DBT speaks to you, you may want to look into ACT. It’s related to CBT and DBT, but less focused on reforming problematic thoughts/feelings and more focused on living a valued life irrespective of the problematic thoughts/feelings.

Russ Harris is great at making ACT palatable to a general audience. Check out some of his YouTube videos (https://thehappinesstrap.com/free-resources/ ) or the just-released updated edition his The Happiness Trap book.

There’s also a DIY workbook that is truly excellent at helping with this stuff, called Get Out of Your Mind and Into Your Life. Highly recommend it.

Hope some of this helps!

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youcancallmeBilly t1_j6ibqfq wrote

I’m specifically talking about people who actively refuse changing a document that has already been changed more than two dozen times and is more than two centuries old.

People who specifically refuse to compromise in the leading cause of death of children in this country.

Is there a different moniker you would prefer?

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The_Humble_Frank t1_j6ia3hf wrote

There was decades of research after WWII trying to find out how Nazis could do what they did.

The summation of that research found that under, sometimes simple circumstances, completely normal people can do those horrible things.

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messengerkindaguy t1_j6i85dz wrote

That’s what’s called “Anecdotal Evidence,” which has no validity in Science.

It’s also called Wishful Thinking, which also simply doesn’t do Science.

However, the science of the destruction that addictive levels of both smoking & drinking - ESP for 36 Years plus - which no signs of stopping perhaps ever - have upon the human brain are quite well documented.

That’s really where you wait to be researching for Facts, not “My Own Personal Experience = Reality” levels of Denial.

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BabySinister t1_j6i2s1d wrote

Considering the mental health argument mostly comes from the NRA or NRA affiliated politicians I'm pretty sure why this argument is made. Still, its good to actually measure these things so that hopefully we can have a debate based on data. That is as long as we don't dismiss scientific data when it doesn't align with our opinion.

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watabadidea t1_j6i1up3 wrote

>You need to read through a basic statistics book.

I think that this might highlight your problem here. This idea that it "always" comes down to which scenario has more frequent occurrences is exactly the type of dumbed-down, overgeneralized claim you'd find in a basic statistics book.

While it might be useful for discussing the issue with someone who has literally zero knowledge of the field, it has no place in a higher level discussion of real-world studies with other professionals.

Seriously, have you ever been involved in a real-world research study where you were going to have to collect a ton of data and then analyze it? I have. "How do we measure what's happening?" and "How do we know our measurements are accurate?" and "How do we reduce system complexity to isolate the thing that we are actually interested in?" are some of the very first conversations that we have.

If someone on the team responded by essentially saying:

>None of that matters. All we have to do is pick something that happens more frequently because that is always the answer.

...we are going to start wondering how this guy ever got on the team in the first place.

>And stop believing people more competent than you on a subject are out to get you.

It is more about people that:

  • Don't know anything about me.
  • Insist on repeatedly stressing how incompetent/untrained/unskilled I am, despite knowing nothing about me.
  • Use these repeated, baseless claims about my competency to dismiss my clearly accurate and legitimate criticisms/critiques out of hand.

If you are doing that, which you clearly are, you might not be out to get me, but you are certainly trying to shut down rational discussion.

>Now if you don't want to trust me, well, as I said, learn statistics yourself

Have you considered the possibility that I don't trust you and have learned statistics myself? You think that not properly considering this is a root cause of our disagreement?

>That doesn't mean I'm not doing my best to portray things honestly.

I mean, I don't know any professional in my field that would dismiss the importance of observability, measurement accuracy, system complexity etc. when attempting to perform statistical analysis of some event of interest.

You've dismissed the importance of these things over and over in this conversation by repeatedly stressing that it "always" comes down to how frequently something occurs. When I call you out, you resort to personal attacks on my understanding, training, and competency.

I'm not a mind reader so I can't say with 100% certainty what your motivation is, but it certainly doesn't seem like you are making a serious effort to engage honestly.

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manocheese t1_j6i13a4 wrote

That's easily answered by looking to see if the US has rates of mental illness above other countries that at least correlate with the increased murder rate. They don't. Also, mental illness rarely causes violence. It's gun and the gun culture that make the US different.

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Serious-Employ6334 t1_j6hyiuq wrote

From someone who was in the hardwood business this is also an economic issue. Deforestation there is one in which the trees were burned because the lumber was not worth much and when the trees were removed crops could be grown.

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youcancallmeBilly t1_j6hxxc8 wrote

Mass shootings account for only 1% of gun violence in the US.

So even if 'mental illness' is to blame for that 1% of gun violence in America, ammosexuals are just as apathetic about the other 99% of gun violence while they actively support policies that literally reduce the quality of, and access to healthcare in the US.

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