A reminder that sometimes super obvious things everyone knows and tells you are not actually true.

This just wasn't one of those times.

Yeah, think of the billions of people who died, freezing in the cold, before we invented chemicals and plastics!

Dumping chemicals and plastic in the ocean is worth sacrificing tens of thousands of species of creatures, plants, and fungus, and billions of people.

Thank you for saving us all!

Cannabis keeps me off daily opioid intake completely.

So far few outdoor performers from that fabric.
Again my position is research and development. I hate the footprint the best gear creates. I’m outside in non optional times and once your 7 miles out….

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Well the alternative is to round up a few billion people living in seasonally cold climates and move them closer to the equator.

Anecdotally slept like crap last night. Am extremely irritable at the moment. Glad to be home by myself because I'm miserable company.

Edited to add: going to do the only thing that helps (besides Ibuprofen) and take a nap.

I moved on to bamboo socks

I would have to see real studies. I’ve been climbing, skiing and living outdoors my whole life. Newest fabrics are by far and away superior for outer layers and insulation often too. Even treated down fails before a synthetic

An active individual can easily answer that question. Cotton sucks for many strenuous activities, period.

If you live in the north and are going hiking up a mountain through the snow, it can kill you. I leave in an hour to do just that. I will often put a cotton layer on in between synthetic layers, but that will usually come off as I get warm and it's always soaked. As long as you keep moving, you're fine. Get lost (and run out of calories or energy) or injured, and you can go into hypothermia in under an hour above 20f and significantly faster if there is wind or if it's any colder.

There has been some real improvement in wool products, and I'm switching over to products like Smartwool where I can.

To the "band aid" comments. No, it's not a silver bullet. Yes, we need to do better. Yes, it's better than doing nothing. Yes, this could be a step in the right direction.

Finally, it's early. Do we know if this process could become an at-home application? Then, you could reapply as needed and even retroactively apply to products that didn't include it initially.

Until they find out the coating itself is the new forever chemical.

Maybe the synthetics used in outdoor wear is different. All the synthetic I have seen the water just rolls off it, and the sweat gets trapped in the neck.

Think we already knew that. Didn’t need to waste money on a study.

TIL: synthetic fabrics have been shedding harmful micro plastics for decades. Oh good.

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I wouldn't call wool water resistant. It wicks moisture and insulates even when wet. That's why it's a good base & mid layer, but not good as an outer shell.

Thankfully so! It would be a strange world where concussions led to better brain function in later life.

I take your point though of course, confirmation of presumed effects is very important work.

I'm talking about cities, where there are wheelchair users.

Can we not pave everything over for the sake of wheels? That’d be great.

/r/Whatcouldgowrong

Bamboo ticks a lot of the same boxes for me

It saved the life of this opioid addict.

And on top of that, we'll discover it's also a forever chemical.

Do brain injuries cause scarring in the brain? Makes sense that this would lead to reduced cognitive function.