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Halloran_da_GOAT t1_j7rbtdh wrote

Reply to People from the poorest backgrounds are far more likely to develop a mental disorder later in life than those from wealthier beginnings. More than half of people with a low educational attainment at age 30 will have a diagnosis of a mental disorder 22 years later by Wagamaga

It seems like the causal arrow could be pointing in either direction, here. Surely a mental disorder will make you more likely to wind up with low educational attainment at age 30

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beyd1 t1_j7r97v7 wrote

Reply to comment by HToTD in People from the poorest backgrounds are far more likely to develop a mental disorder later in life than those from wealthier beginnings. More than half of people with a low educational attainment at age 30 will have a diagnosis of a mental disorder 22 years later by Wagamaga

There's also probably an element of pre selection too. People who are likely to pass on mental disorders aren't likely to be successful themselves.

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Oriumpor t1_j7r93da wrote

Reply to People from the poorest backgrounds are far more likely to develop a mental disorder later in life than those from wealthier beginnings. More than half of people with a low educational attainment at age 30 will have a diagnosis of a mental disorder 22 years later by Wagamaga

Stress causes hormones to be released in the body. The more stress you have the longer you get that drip drip drip. We know long term stress is bad and causes neuro-atypical behavior and can sometimes not be reversed just by removing the stress.

So stress can sometimes be a one way street of change, and the more you have, the less likely you can come back from the effects.

It's like a drug addiction, only way less fun.

Being poor is paying for life with stress... So yeah, poor folks suffer more because we make them suffer more.

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aupri t1_j7r7ce8 wrote

Reply to comment by szpaceSZ in Milk consumption increased ancient human body size, finds study by giuliomagnifico

I mean yeah, if you’re living in prehistoric/ancient times with a scarcity of food then having more sources of food to use is beneficial, but that isn’t really an issue in modern society. People in developed countries are more likely to be overweight than undernourished, because, like many other evolutionary holdovers from our prehistoric past, the urge to eat any and all food you can get your hands on no longer a positive trait in modern society. What was evolutionarily beneficial thousands to millions of years ago is, surprise, not the same as what’s beneficial now

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Advanced-Depth1816 t1_j7r72ob wrote

Reply to People from the poorest backgrounds are far more likely to develop a mental disorder later in life than those from wealthier beginnings. More than half of people with a low educational attainment at age 30 will have a diagnosis of a mental disorder 22 years later by Wagamaga

If you can be diagnosed based off of education, then it should be required for states to get sufficient funding and and programs to help those who have bad study skills or learning disabilities. Some places do this but only wealthy and one public school that I know of and that I went to(also wealthy area). We Should be aloud to sue congress members or whoever it may be who block education funding for public school especially in low income areas, because that may very well be the cause of some mental disorders down the line, according to this. Or maybe a union for teachers and other educators so that the great people who want to teach the youth can do it happily and without worrying about feeding themselves or their family

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TheDeathOfAStar t1_j7r5i1h wrote

Reply to comment by abaram in People from the poorest backgrounds are far more likely to develop a mental disorder later in life than those from wealthier beginnings. More than half of people with a low educational attainment at age 30 will have a diagnosis of a mental disorder 22 years later by Wagamaga

And remember, our "representatives" aren't there for the people. Our "representatives" are bought by the same corporations that have shackled the lower classes. This is representative democracy's largest folly, and I'd be surprised if we can pull out of this stall.

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Tha_Watcher t1_j7r4xb1 wrote

Reply to comment by HungryHungryHobo2 in People from the poorest backgrounds are far more likely to develop a mental disorder later in life than those from wealthier beginnings. More than half of people with a low educational attainment at age 30 will have a diagnosis of a mental disorder 22 years later by Wagamaga

>Ten professionals can see the same patient and give them ten different diagnoses.

There might even be some unconscious bias in those diagnoses as well.

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TheNextBattalion t1_j7r4jse wrote

Reply to comment by Sethuel in People from the poorest backgrounds are far more likely to develop a mental disorder later in life than those from wealthier beginnings. More than half of people with a low educational attainment at age 30 will have a diagnosis of a mental disorder 22 years later by Wagamaga

I think a lot of people misunderstand "more likely" to mean "will definitely," and overreact from there.

That said, I read the article where they indicate controlling for family history, so my comment is moot.

Overall, though given the facts that some mental disorders do have a genetic predisposition, most people marry/couple in the same socioeconomic status, and education systems tend to be hurdle-some for people with mental disorders, over time we should see these kinds of effects start to emerge over a number of post-industrial generations.

Equality-minded people might try to find ways of counterbalancing the effects of lower mental health, lest poorer kids be trapped from leaving the cycle. Supremacist-minded people might devilishly try to cement those effects into custom or law, like the nobility of old, lest their kids fall and break the positive cycle. We can't avoid facing truths just because abusive people are going to abuse them. They'll find any ol' excuse and will end up having to be quashed no matter what.

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abaram t1_j7r4iox wrote

Reply to comment by HobgoblinKhanate1 in People from the poorest backgrounds are far more likely to develop a mental disorder later in life than those from wealthier beginnings. More than half of people with a low educational attainment at age 30 will have a diagnosis of a mental disorder 22 years later by Wagamaga

And then hire a bunch of poor people with talent and underpay them for stuff they make and overcharge the customers. So easy

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Ok_Skill_1195 t1_j7r23vy wrote

Reply to People from the poorest backgrounds are far more likely to develop a mental disorder later in life than those from wealthier beginnings. More than half of people with a low educational attainment at age 30 will have a diagnosis of a mental disorder 22 years later by Wagamaga

My dad suffered stress induced psychosis. Stress is well known to exacerbate mental disorders. The fact poverty is stressful should surprise nobody

While others here are making some good points about intricacies of diagnosis, I would be shocked if there isn't direct causality here.

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