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New-Statement1363 t1_j7s33sn wrote

The study was done in Finland.. Which has "one of the lowest poverty rates" (internet). Not sure how, or if, it affects the info. But I'd be curious about a more economically stratified or poorer country

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Bama_Peach t1_j7s1cog wrote

As someone who has been poor and now lives comfortably - you're absolutely right. Once I didn't have to stress about what bill I was going to have to forgo paying so that I could have lights or keep a roof over my head or worry about where I was going to come up with an extra $500 when my car broke down, my mental state vastly improved. I still struggle with depression but my depression isn't nearly as severe as it was when I had no money.

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m0le t1_j7rqgyy wrote

As someone bipolar from a well educated and if not from a wealthy background, certainly not from a poor background either, I'd suggest the sheer cost and pain in the arse of getting diagnosed will have an impact on that "later in life" part.

Most mental illnesses (bipolar included) get worse over time if untreated until you end up hospitalised. Then you'll be diagnosed if you're poor. If you have a bit more in the way of resources, you can get investigations into the symptoms earlier in life and treatments (possibly even "off the books" so you aren't recorded as having a mental illness).

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dgmilo8085 t1_j7rq8nl wrote

I already commented on this thread, but shockingly, the only people I personally know that have developed schizophrenia or serious mental disorders leading to serious trouble were those of extremely wealthy upbringing.

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dgmilo8085 t1_j7rq1bq wrote

And yet although ad hominem, from my own personal experience the only 4 people I know who have been "certified" have been from extremely wealthy backgrounds.

Daughter of a major CFO, the Son of a massive sunglass company, the son of a famous movie producer, and the daughter of a clothing company.

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Alegr0 t1_j7roukf wrote

Does the study consider the mental health of the parents? A lot of people with mental health problems are in poverty and mental health difficulties have genetic components so I wonder if that could be part of what’s happening.

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Superb_Nature_2457 t1_j7rnyut wrote

There’s a lot of action being taken, though I completely get how it doesn’t look like it. There’s a huge focus on habitat and population conservation, for example, but really, this is tied to the larger efforts we collectively make. If we want to save our oceans, we have to stabilize our planet or at least mitigate the damage. Preaching to the choir, I know.

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Throwawy98064 t1_j7rkkkz wrote

So what do we do about this?!

I see new studies/articles every day attributing common diseases to poor gut flora. But I see almost nothing about ways in which this can be remedied?

Yes, eat healthy. Eat probiotics/prebiotics. What if that’s not working?

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otterbomber t1_j7rk4e4 wrote

Bugs and living conditions. I’ve worked in pest control and well off people having a German roach issue is nearly non existent.

Fixing mold, bug, rodent, ventilation, nutrition and temp. issues is way easier when you have money to throw at it

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elcano t1_j7rk3e0 wrote

Diagnosis was made with the ICD-10. Therefore it isn't accounting for the population that could have a diagnosis of Complex Trauma (CPTSD). This diagnosis wasn't added to the ICD-11 until 2018.

In contrast to regular PTSD, that is caused by a single terrible event (acute), CPTSD is the trauma that people develop by living a series of negative events (chronic). The events don't need to be terrible, but they can be.

This study draws an association between poverty and traditional mental health issues. However, I wonder if in many of those cases the trauma of struggling to cope with poverty and other associated issues might be causing CPTSD as a 'gateway' mental health issue (undiagnosed) that sometimes leads to depression, anxiety and other traditional mental health issues. Anyway, if this is true, those suffering only from CPTSD are not only being underserved, but they could receive intervention before they develop major problems. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Complex_post-traumatic_stress_disorder

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rumagin t1_j7rh2h6 wrote

And this is why the Western social science of psychology has been wrong (on purpose) for most of its existence. It didn't connect to capitalism as the environment and context within which psychology sits. Like they nearly all ignored capitalisn as though it was somehow natural and not important to their analyses of people. Mindblowing. Is it David Graber who wrote about the emergence of economic and psychology as pseudo sciences in the late 1800s developed to support the ideological, legal and cultural mechanisms needed for capitalism broader entrenchment as supposedly the only way social relations can be organised. Can't remember. Anyways it was an interesting point on the matter.

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kittenTakeover t1_j7rf6l4 wrote

Palm oil gets a bad rap from what I can tell. Most of the crops that have the biggest impact, such as palm oil, do so because they're the most used. However, they're often the most used because they're the most efficient. Dropping palm oil may have consequences if you just shift your oil use to a less efficient crop. Now you need even more farm land!

In the end the best general answer to TheAverageBiologist is to consume less and get involved in politics.

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