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grahag t1_j66tata wrote

Reply to comment by CellistDouble3772 in How life with UBI could look like by Financial_Donut_64

That's like saying that the criminal isn't fully to blame for committing a crime that the government made so easy to do.

C'mon, you HAVE to see that, right?

And you're acting like banks didn't have control of legislation to deregulate themselves. Phil Gramm, a Republican Texas senator, AND Bill Clinton, were largely responsible for getting Glass-Steagall repealed and later deregulating derivatives. Gramm is now towards the top of UBS now, benefiting from that deregulation.

This wasn't "the government". This was the banking industry who as a whole, spent money for lobbying to get the industry deregulated. The government was a tool to do that and the banking industry was largely responsible for it.

I, as well about a hundred million others were directly affected, either losing their homes, their 401k's dropping half their value, or other financial disasters that left us all worse off than when 2008 hit. This orchestrated event was a culmination of decades of planning by the financial industry and rests solidly on their shoulders.

I'm aware the government is broken in a way that can't be easily fixed, but I'll never forget the details of my financial ruin or the people responsible.

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Class-Concious7785 t1_j66svta wrote

Reply to comment by [deleted] in Last night I had perhaps the most interesting conversation of my life entirely with a Joseph Stalin chat AI. We discussed hours of philosophy and morals, and it's responses and original questions truly baffled me. Part 1 of the chat log is listed below. by TBabb01

> Fascism is therefore opposed to socialism, to which unity within the State (which amalgamates classes into a single economic and ethical reality) is unknown, and which sees in history nothing but the class struggle.

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imlaggingsobad t1_j66spnc wrote

Reply to comment by Redditing-Dutchman in What does singularity look like to you? by [deleted]

i agree with this take. Much more chaos, much more competition. Things will happen so fast that basically the life expectancy of an idea will be less than a few days, because a super smart AI on the other side of the world will already have taken advantage of it. Humans will not be able to keep up, most will have to just watch from the sidelines. Certain pockets of the world, like Silicon Valley, will get exponentially more advanced as the AI self-improves. There will be mass unemployment as these AIs take over most day to day operations. UBI is instituted. Cost of everything trends to $0. A thousand dollars is enough to live like a prince. Maybe money itself loses value. Society will need to be restructured. The idea of "work" is meaningless.

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curloperator t1_j66rzv5 wrote

Reply to comment by fastinguy11 in What does singularity look like to you? by [deleted]

I don't see this possibility as any less impactful. It all falls under the same rubric. In the end we will still be symbiotically connect to this greater being, either psycho-socially, cybernetically via the integration of our civilizations' systems with it, or techno-organicaly as you've described. The point is that life will begin to evolve entirely around its existence to the point where the future of history will in a sense belong to it and not to us as humans any longer (at least not i the way we think of history now). This will cause human philosophy to shift dramatically, especially if a post scarcity condition is also achieved. It will be a moment of utter existential crisis on a species wide scale that far surpasses our current anxiety about climate change.

In fact, that anxiety is of a similar kind but a far less directly acute or intense character (humans creating a system/systemic change more powerful than them which they can't figure out how to control). Same with nuclear weapons as well. These are systemic existential threats in the physical sense, but this will be one directly related to the concept of our own consciousness.

The possibility of full transhuman integration as a solution or outcome of the advent of AGI of course comes with the fundamental question of transhumanism: at what point does transhuman integration move us beyond the logical boundaries of being human? Is a transhuman a human any longer or is it some new species defined by being merely the organic extension of the AGI system? In either case, we're looking at a post-human future and the transition period into it will have a lot of features found in human culture today, namely a sort of religious conflict over the new AGI which will inevitably be seen as a God.

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