Recent comments in /f/singularity

banned_mainaccount t1_j67ehwq wrote

bro i don't think you understand the words you're using. yeah it's very likely, but it's not "self evident". first of all even saying sun will rise tomorrow, is not 100% true, tho chances of it not rising are astronomically low. and when we talk about something like technological singularity, where we have to consider millions of factors to predict what will happen in future, there is really no telling. you could say it's likely, but not it's "correct". science doesn't consider anything to be self evident. even 1+1=2 has 300 pages proof in principia mathematica. i know some people have this tendency to believe anything that will make them and their life special, it's exciting to believe that world will change in your lifetime, but there's a fine line between what you want and what you get.

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LittleTimmyTheFifth5 t1_j67cxnb wrote

Here's a thought, how would the music industry react to that? I sense that would be a lot of legal fights and claims. Besides, they could probably privately license it to companies to get some money off it or something.

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joseph_dewey t1_j67coy7 wrote

By that definition, it has already happened, and probably happened back in the caveman days. Prediction is pretty tough, and almost everyone gets it wrong. Technological growth has been "rapid" since the species before us invented tools.

I thought that technological singularity was always defined in terms of AI surpassing human intelligence.

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ecnecn t1_j67av5s wrote

We will most likely enter a short phase where pioneers make much money with just AI-API-Application and AI-Second Layers Applications... the big AI firms still continue to accumulate money, more and more people will storm social platforms like YouTube, Instagram, Twitter and Facebook because ccreating media becomes super easy, the revenue becomes less. Media and Service jobs vanish, influencers become meaningless, more and more people become unemployed or end up in cheap part time / contract constellations that make nobody happy... Traditional jobs still remain but lack more and more clients from modern businesses and go bankrupt. Big AI tech firms accumulate an incredible amount of wealth never seen before because everyone believes he can make quick bucks through media, 3d printing etc. (but in the end all do the same and destroy the market) and subscribe to dozens of third-party AI services that delivers tools for creations. The bubble bursts for the common people, there are no jobs left and just 2-3 super ultra rich AI coorperations. In the end people will start questioning everything because it makes no sense that individuals become rich through application of knowledge that belongs to the whole mankind. (AGI, singularity). It will be impossible to produce unique products. AI coorperations see that everything is stuck and no matter how much money they have mankind was forced to stop because of them. They take over politics and offers a AI management system as global solution and some form of UBI. People have a private profession and learned multiple crafts in their free time, they are registered by AI and 2-3 days per week AI can use their workforce, the rest 4 days are free and all have enough to live for.

I have a Master of Science in a specific field and most of the hours I work are "bullshit" / "pretend it" hours - and it feels wrong because the environment presses you in a false form thats not your true form. Its not "fake it till you make it" anymore, its "make it then fake it". I would love to change my profession from time to time and work as a street cleaner or train driver. The modern work model binds you to a specific job with specific hours... in extreme cases you are fincancially bound to single person that just wants to become rich with a senseless product but have the ressources to try it... and when I talk to colleagues they dream of avoiding this lifestyle. This work model will be outdated and AGI / Singularity will most likely deliver better alternatives. I hate that low paid jobs have stigmata I would love a "work fluid" society managed by AI.

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Lawjarp2 t1_j679l0r wrote

Dude the government can just build it's own production. When cost of production is cheap and labour infinite what prevents them or anyone from creating more production. People are overcomplicating things here.

None of the issues you mention matter if we are at a point when ubi has to be doled out because of AGI. The hyper deflation that will occur due to sudden increase in productivity means the governments can and probably have to print their way out anyway.

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