Recent comments in /f/singularity

HelloGoodbyeFriend t1_j67o4a9 wrote

Reply to comment by CypherLH in Google not releasing MusicLM by Sieventer

Completely agree. Unfortunately the way the AI works isn’t easily explainable as of now, so uneducated critics or artists with a bias toward AI content will immediately call it a “collage tool” instead of focusing on the power that it has to expand art.

I’m a musician myself and I cannot fucking wait till the models are capable of producing anywhere near the equivalent musically that the text to image models are doing now because I will immediately use it as a tool to expand my art and expression to get the most accurate output of my emotions and the story I want to tell. That’s the biggest part of the conversation thats’s missing right now in my mind.. The great visual artists of today should be, or are probably already using AI to amplify their talents. AI, for now.. is just raising the bar of how the average person can attempt to express themselves, it’s up to the artists to view it as a tool or a threat.

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user4517proton t1_j67o10f wrote

I doubt OpenAI could have continued on donations given the large costs for the networks they need for GPT 4 and beyond. I think Microsoft has done good to allow as much freedom for OpenAI while gaining benefits from the money they provide.

The real kicker will be if OpenAI and Microsoft can topple Google, something that is much needed these days.

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CypherLH t1_j67nlpz wrote

Yeah, its the potential slowing down that bugs me. I assume all the big AI players would have to build entirely new data sets to fit within whatever the new copyright regime would allow. Then re-train their large models on the new data sets, etc. Would definitely slow things down and some players like MidJourney might have to close their doors with a setback like that.

Plus I fear the broader implications of a new copyright regime that would effectively allow genres, fashions, and styles to be copyrighted.

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TwitchTvOmo1 t1_j67nccl wrote

Reply to comment by CypherLH in Google not releasing MusicLM by Sieventer

For what it's worth, no matter how much copyright advocates scream and cry, it won't stop AI from replacing entire industries. Like it or not the music industry is next. It might slow us down, but it's happening one way or another.

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No_Ninja3309_NoNoYes t1_j67m1kf wrote

Everything is possible. It is also possible that the people you mentioned never get to see an AGI. Maybe zillion dollars has only 0.0000000134% chance of leading to AGI. The problem with nonexistent numbers is that the maths involved is also nonexistent.

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cloudrunner69 t1_j67lmu4 wrote

So you think this sub is for people who disagree with the premise of the subs fundamental subject?

It's like going on a sub devoted to the discussion of Islam and telling everyone that you think their religion is bullshit. Or going on the longevity sub and telling everyone that they are all wrong and life extension medicine and treatment are impossible and will never happen. How do you think people should respond to someone who so vehemently disagrees with the main premise of a sub?

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cloudrunner69 t1_j67jmp4 wrote

I don't know if anyone can make 100% accurate predications, but I think we can still make some pretty reasonable guesses based on current and past trends. For instance we can see the evolution of things like CPU's and can make some pretty good predications on what their next stage of evolution will look like. When the singularity hits something like the next steps of innovation in processors will be impossible to determine, because the growth in that technology will be to rapid to follow.

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LiveComfortable3228 t1_j67jec5 wrote

No offense but I find this proposition super naïve.

AI (specially AGI) will replace jobs by the millions. Billions probably. This will further (significantly) exacerbate today's wealth gap by downgrading billions of ppl whose jobs have been replaced by AGI and making an even smaller uber-wealthy class who controls the AGIs and related tech.

Any idea of "wealth redistribution" seems ludicrous to me. Why is it not happening already? Musk, Jeff, Mark, Bill, Sergei, etc own trillions of dollars. Why aren't they redistributing now?

It is not the job of non for profit to provide UBI to the billions. No, UBI (if at all) will come from governments. Since a very large number of people will not have jobs, tax collection will drop. The answer is simple, either there's a tax on AGI or billions go into poverty. I tell you, when billions go into poverty, things dont generally end well.

Reality is that this is an unprecedented moment in our planet. I dont buy the analogy of the industrial revolution and how people adapt and find new types of jobs, etc. Yes, that will happen to some extent (benefiting very few ppl). But most people are NOT cut out or have the skills to be a AI data scientists or similar. We are literally walking into uncharted territory affecting the very foundations of our civilization. I'm not kidding or trying to dramatize things. This is unlike anything that we have ever seen and it will require a massive change in the way we structure our society, as well as a massive safety net for everyone.

Worst of all...its coming in super fast, and probably much sooner than anticipated.

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CypherLH t1_j67jb20 wrote

It bugs me so much that this bullshit copyright anti-AI narrative has taken hold among so many people. Sorry but looking/listening to a bunch of stuff to learn what that stuff looks like and then using that learning to produce new, entirely original, works is not a f-ing copyright violation. If it is then genres/fashions/styles can be copyrighted and fair use is dead so basically all art and creative work is dead since no one can learn their art by learning from stuff they "don't own", no one can follow a fashion trend, no one can be inspired by the style of anyone else's work ever. How can people not see what a disaster it would be if these copyright assertions are upheld by the courts??? And it all stems from a fundamental misunderstanding of how this AI tech works; these models are NOT just mashing things together like a giant collage so matter how many people keep repeating this false assertion.

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