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Agarikas t1_j6ci3ny wrote

Someone might looking at this meme from the future and I don't really know what to tell them besides "It was what it was".

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Steven81 t1_j6chw1k wrote

Reply to comment by Jenkinswarlock in I’m ready by CassidyHouse

There is a downside with being infused with such ideas from early on. I'm prolly older than a lot of this sub (hopefully not by a lot) but I came in contact with age of the spiritual machines and similar ideas in the mid to late 90s...

Ever since then , no matter how small the danger (towards my life) I get spooked. For example I had a minor hospitalization lately, my iv hooked veins often develop phlebitis soon after. A mostly benign condition that almost never develops to something worse like DVT.

Yet I'm losing sleep over it, misjudge even slight muscle pain on the upper arm as the start of some nasty DVT. That's not even my 1st time with phlebitis. I get it almost every time I get hooked with IV lines (for often silly reasons) , so my subconcious should have been trained.

I was not like that at all as a kid. I think my hope that longevity escape velocity happens in my generation, made me paranoid in some subconcious manner and I'm accutely aware of my possible mortality, more than I would otherwise be.

I hope that younger generations that learn/read of such stuff do not fall in this pitfall. Whether you have a lot to gain (or less) by staying alive for as long as possible, does not make your death at his moment more imminent/probable. Yet that's the subconcious feeling (suddenly each danger is acute) that often arises if you let it.

Be aware, live your life! Obviously avoid stupid dangers, but often that's enough your body (and some medical checkups as you grow older) takes care of the rest for the vast vast majority of cases (which very probably includes you)

Me stressing over it, even subconsciously has actually made my health worse than it would otherwise be (stress more generally). It's ironic, but it is there. Be aware, our minds can be stupid like that.

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Rogue_Moon_Boy t1_j6chfgi wrote

I'd like to think an AGI with a physical form attached is smarter than us humans, therefore sees how destructive and useless wars actually are. If it's capable to survive outer space, it would know it has basically unlimited space for itself. I also think it would realize how wasteful unlimited duplication of itself would be.

AI space wars is a construct of Sci-Fi authors for dramatic purposes, and I think those authors haven't really understood, or deliberately ignored, how vast the universe actually is. War in itself exists because of 2 reasons:

  • Ego
  • Limited resources and land
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Steven81 t1_j6cfkit wrote

I still think that a 16 year old game like Crysis has no place to look as good as it does today. A semi open world with fully destructible environment, tactics from your opponents and one of the best jungle environments to this days, with probably some of the best explosions to this day...

Contrast it with with 1991 games vs it. Graphics and videogame mechanics have definitely slowed, by a whole lot. There was no new paradigm to follow the one that brought us to the mid '00s...

Having said that , it is to be expected. The industry has matured, you need exponentially more money with very little return (both in results and money from said results). It's the prototypical S curve.

Next step in videogames would only happen when we change the medium (say being in them instead of controlling within a screen). By then there would be a fresh reason to progress fast... we are not there yet.

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Rogue_Moon_Boy t1_j6cenjm wrote

Avoiding falling off a cliff is not the same as having survival instincts. It would just mean it knows the rules of physics, looks at a cliff and the ground below and calculates the impact velocity and sees it would harm itself when it would jump down. It would be a specificly trained feature.

That's not the same as being self aware or having "instincts". It's just one input value into a neural net that has a greater weight than everything else and says don't do it because it's bad.

Instincts in a human are mostly guesstimates because of irrational feelings, and we are actually really bad and inaccurate at it eg. stage fright, fear of rejection, the need to show off as a breeding ritual and many other instincts that would be totally useless for a machine.

A machine like an AGI is the opposite of irrational, it's all about cold calculations and statistics. You'd have to deliberately train or code "instincts" into an AGI for it to be able to simulate it.

Sci-Fi literature always tries to humanize AGI for dramatic purposes, and tries to portray it as that one thing that out of nowhere boooom -> is self aware/conscious. In reality, it will be a very lengthy and deliberate process to reach that point, if we want it to in the first place. We have all the control over it to learn or not learn stuff, or check/prevent/clamp unwanted outputs of a neural net.

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Kaining t1_j6cden6 wrote

Reply to comment by WashiBurr in I’m ready by CassidyHouse

You're putting the carriage before the horse here.

Consciousness first, body then. Consciousness is consciousness regardless of whatever body it is. It's molded by the body but is is what it is. New brain, new memories, new nervous system, new feeling, ect... That's kind of how the reincarnation thingy explains why you don't get to keep memories from previous life in buddhism btw and it kind of make sences. And is a bit fallacious and dodgy too as it kind of nullify the appeal of reincarnation when you first learn of the concept. It ain't a restart button at all. More of a "things stay the same in a constantly changing world" impermanence trick.

So you could rez a completely different consciousness into a VR game and it would still act the same as the being you resurected as long as you "built" it right. The problem here is not knowing if its "you" but if there is a "you" inside that VR avatar. That's an aspect of the "brain in a vat" thingy. How can you be sure that others are real when all of reality is merely a projection of your brain. How can you be sure you are even here is another nasty issue.

Ego Death is a thing afterall.

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Ok-Jackfruit-7283 t1_j6ccle6 wrote

I've been thinking about this for a while and the only logical conclusion that I can come to is that death will always be inevitable. I think I'm going to kill myself to get it over with now if I'm being honest. Because no matter what I do or how long I live it's still going to end abruptly when I'm not ready, so I don't see any real point to continue living further.

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