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enilea t1_j6ixjxt wrote

It's like charlie's dad in willy wonka getting replaced by a robot and then getting a job repairing the robot. After the robot is repaired there isn't much more to do.

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pipe2057 OP t1_j6iw896 wrote

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Frumpagumpus t1_j6iung4 wrote

Reply to comment by Steven81 in I’m ready by CassidyHouse

i think we disagree, I think your version of "platonism" is solipsistic lol, since it places so much emphasis on your point of view.

my version of platonism (which is not pure by any means but possibly just as aligned w/original platonism's theory of forms if not moreso than yours) is more: abstract and physical world can both be described with coordinate systems, e.g. numbers. So just like it turned out space and time were actually spacetime, there might be something similar going on.

and yes i don't believe in souls. (in particular there is no a priori reason to believe in them and even if it was a real concept it wouldnt' change much since the soul would also live in a reality similar to our own, e.g. that of space describable by a coordinate system, probably some timelike dimension as well in order to map to our own reality, in my estimation)

> In one case Uploading yourself is killing yourself, in another it is living forever without the need of pesky mediums.

uh, it can be killing yourself in both of them, because causal continuity is a "material" property...

the question is more of how much difference does it make, people die all the time, is it so bad to die, etc. You think maintaining your personal narrative is of paramount importance because it's tied to some trans dimensional soul or something. I see myself as more about fighting for my ideals, and making sacrifices when necessary or important.

Though i'm not sure it will really be much of a sacrifice actually, seems like that to us but we see things differently as exclusively embodied agents than future intelligences will.

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crua9 t1_j6iu2ti wrote

>and it creates other jobs elsewhere around machine design, installation and upkeep

I hate it when people say this because just looking at the numbers shows this isn't an answer. Let's say you replaced 40 people (remember it is multiple shifts and so on).

There use to be network engineer jobs everywhere. There is no longer network engineer jobs hardly anywhere anymore. The reason is, after things are installed, you don't need to keep the person. So a lot of times today it is someone contracted among a large area.

The upkeep, unless if these things are breaking down every day. You have a small group over a large area that fixed this stuff up. And then what happen with computers is as the prices went down. Instead of hiring people to fix the parts. They are now replacing the entire computer and far less people are involved.

Like if you are replacing them 30 people and still have to keep even half for fixing and what not. This would make it more expensive because now you have down time and so on.

And then the design bit. Someone working at mc d likely doesn't have the background or ability to do design work. Did you know mc d is one of the biggest disability employers in the world? They even train their managers on this not to be nice. Sometimes they tell the managers this is the best the disabled person can get, and due to this they will stick around and jump through more crap because there is no other choice other than homeless or death. Litterally!!!

Anyways, even when you look at a normal person. Designing and so on now takes degrees in robotic or mechanical engineering. Meaning now the person has to magically over not have done a major degree, have the debt with that, and so on. And then even if they did. How many designers do you really need?

Oh and it is likely by then you can simply tell an AI your problem, your budget, and so on. And it will give you several designs, the software, and so on

Tldr the math doesn't add up to make your statement remotely true. Many people will be hurt by this

Now don't get me wrong. I 100% want this to happen. It more and more forces us to ubi and maybe a cashless society. But your statement wasn't factual

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MarginCalled1 t1_j6iu0ye wrote

I'd think the ideal way to handle this would be to create a large enough buffer, say a couple hours. It wouldn't technically be 'live' but very close to it and allow for 3d artwork generation.

Additionally you may be able to save previously generated content for reuse going forward, for example if I wanted to create a character named Daffy, instead of drawing him each time you could have AI generate him in every possible motion then refer to that going forward. That would save a ton of compute and shave a lot of time off the processing requirements.

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ihateshadylandlords t1_j6itdj0 wrote

Cops, paramedics, firefighters, face-to-face sex workers, physical/massage/mental/occupational therapists, k-12 teachers, daycare teachers, doctors, surgeons, construction workers, tradesmen, nurses and nursing assistants will be the last to go in my opinion.

I’m sure I can think of more, but that’s off the top of my head.

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thenwetakeberlin t1_j6isxc6 wrote

Yeah amen to that. Everyone’s all “wow you don’t have to talk to a single person to get subpar food (still made by people in the back)” and all I can think about is a) the fact that a place with that name exists, b) the fact that no one seems to notice, and c) McDonald’s must have know this would get attention…why did they choose that place of all places?

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