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YobaiYamete t1_j6j3rni wrote

Reply to comment by Sandbar101 in What jobs will be one of the last remaining ones? by MrCensoredFace

I dunno about that, when I did construction people were constantly finding new cutting edge tech. People would constantly show up with laser levels and new types of dremels and oscillating multi tools etc.

Maybe it was just the dudes in my area, but most were super open to adopting new tech that made their lives easier. Most would use it like show and tell to show their latest gadgets each week lol

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im-so-stupid-lol t1_j6j3h15 wrote

Reply to comment by the68thdimension in A McDonald’s location has opened in White Settlement, TX, that is almost entirely automated. Since it opened in December 2022, public opinion is mixed. Many are excited but many others are concerned about the impact this could have on millions of low-wage service workers. by Callitaloss

> if this 'automation' bothers people they should be pushing for Universal Basic Services (UBS).

respectfully I think people's fears are a little more nuanced than that. obviously if AI is going to make most work that people do today unnecessary, we should distribute those benefits to not just shareholders but also stakeholders which will be every member of society.

however, I think people in general lack trust in such systems. who will control that system of benefit distribution (distributing food, currency, etc) -- the government? private companies?

I think people are disturbed by the fact that, up until this AI revolution, one's economic value is inherent because they can perform labor that there is demand for, and so ultimately the people, the workers, have a lot of leverage and can exert influence on the system, because they are needed. whereas, after this AI revolution, assuming we are talking about HLMI -- meaning that basically any task is better done by a machine than a person -- the worker now has no leverage in the economic system and is fully at the mercy of whoever controls the system. whether that is a governing body or a corporation is kind of irrelevant, it's an uncomfortable situation to be in.

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ishizako t1_j6j2d12 wrote

Reply to comment by MitchTJones in A McDonald’s location has opened in White Settlement, TX, that is almost entirely automated. Since it opened in December 2022, public opinion is mixed. Many are excited but many others are concerned about the impact this could have on millions of low-wage service workers. by Callitaloss

The city got its name because it was the lone settlement of white colonists amid several Native American villages in the Fort Worth area in the Texas Republic territory in the 1840s.

On October 14, 2005, city leaders, citing hurdles in attracting businesses, announced a plan to have local voters decide on a possible name change for the town from White Settlement to West Settlement. the name change was overwhelmingly rejected by a vote of 2,388 to 219

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Frumpagumpus t1_j6j0vr4 wrote

Reply to comment by Steven81 in I’m ready by CassidyHouse

> If we live in a materialistic universe , I don't think that concepts like "importance" can even enter the conversation.

what, why does a soul or whatever have anything to do with importance? (my suspicion here would be you are trying to do something impossible to do with an axiomatic system)

> Yes the world will go on in some abstract way, but not in a manner that can -even in principle- matter to you

we just went over how "abstract" and "material" (the world) aren't necessarily so different... they are both spaces in a geometric sense mapped by coordinate systems

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RabidHexley t1_j6j0rrd wrote

Reply to comment by crua9 in A McDonald’s location has opened in White Settlement, TX, that is almost entirely automated. Since it opened in December 2022, public opinion is mixed. Many are excited but many others are concerned about the impact this could have on millions of low-wage service workers. by Callitaloss

TL/DR: It doesn't take 100,000 people to design, install, and maintain robots that do the work of 100,000 people.

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Above_Everything t1_j6j0i5r wrote

Reply to comment by MitchTJones in A McDonald’s location has opened in White Settlement, TX, that is almost entirely automated. Since it opened in December 2022, public opinion is mixed. Many are excited but many others are concerned about the impact this could have on millions of low-wage service workers. by Callitaloss

I would have thought nothing of it but even in my Northern California town there was a place called “n word bar” up until a year ago

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Steven81 t1_j6j0968 wrote

Reply to comment by Frumpagumpus in I’m ready by CassidyHouse

> You think maintaining your personal narrative is of paramount importance

If we live in a materialistic universe , I don't think that concepts like "importance" can even enter the conversation.

Things either are or they are not in such a universe. In a materialistic universe your end is akin to the end of the world because there is a lack of observation in the particular timeline you always occupied. Yes the world will go on in some abstract way, but not in a manner that can -even in principle- matter to you. Say the many worlds interpretation of quantum mechanics ends up being true (basically time is multidimensional), in such a world how can it matter what happens in a parallel reality that is not ours. One's death in a materialistic universe is neither important nor unimportant, it does have a definite effect on the individual though (he gets stuck in a dead end version of the universe).

That's why I find a materialistic universe (if we indeed live in one) a partially solipsistic one.

I dont know how Platonism can be sollipsistic though. Plato certainly did believe that we live in a universe made of ideals and that we embody an image of them. The concept of a soul was paramount to his belief and especially to that of neo platonists. That's where Christians got it from (early Christians believed in bodily resurrection, there was no concept of an immortal soul, until neo platonists had their influence on Christianity around the 4th century ce, but I digress)...

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starstruckmon t1_j6izowe wrote

Reply to comment by Melancholy-Zebra in Chinese Search Giant Baidu to Launch ChatGPT-Style Bot by Buck-Nasty

I would be very surprised. They have technically speaking ( as per benchmarks ), one of the best text-to-image generators right now, yet the practical output is far below what we have in quality due to the limited dataset.

It would probably be even worse for text. Wikipedia, reddit, all the code forums like stackoverflow, documentations and manuals, vast majority of scientific papers. They'd be leaving so much out.

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GodOfThunder101 t1_j6izgll wrote

Reply to comment by natepriv22 in What jobs will be one of the last remaining ones? by MrCensoredFace

Making a career now is better than doing nothing and waiting for some machine to do it for you. AGI could happen in 10 years or 100 years. It is not wise to live life thinking AGI will do everything for us, because right now it’s still fantasy and experts can be wrong.

So I don’t understand your point, do you think OP should not go to college and not try at all?

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Good-AI t1_j6iz9dh wrote

Reply to How rapidly will ai change the biomedical field? What changes can be expected. by Smellz_Of_Elderberry

Imagine training AI specifically in science. Having it read millions of papers, and then seeing patterns and drawing conclusions no one ever thought of before. From those conclusions, it draws other conclusions and hypothesis. Faster than anyone can keep up with. The AI just gives up doing science with any humans. It's painfully slow. The AI would progress at the speed of earning a Nobel prize in all scientific areas each day. The edges of science become out of reach of scientists. AI pushes it too far and quickly for us to learn anything that isn't outdated by the time we understand it. We may ask it to translate it for us, but it will be miles ahead. It will be like trying to explain a toddler the theory of relativity and when the toddler finally understands it, after what it feels like an eternity for us, we already thought of 100 better theories. We realize there's just no point trying to explain the toddler anything. We just take care of the toddler and explain things with a lot of simplification and incorrections so it grasps anything at all. "Yes, eat the soup baby, it's good for you!" The toddler will be us.

AI will suddenly tell us what to do to reverse aging, cure any disease, create systems for perfect nutrition delivery. Maybe upload our consciousness out of a physical body. Who knows.

Perhaps it will never know how to reverse entropy though. We will see.

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crua9 t1_j6iyw94 wrote

Reply to comment by enilea in A McDonald’s location has opened in White Settlement, TX, that is almost entirely automated. Since it opened in December 2022, public opinion is mixed. Many are excited but many others are concerned about the impact this could have on millions of low-wage service workers. by Callitaloss

I was thinking of that exact thing. I can't remember if it showed him having other workers around him when he was working before the robots, but I'm sure it showed just him fixing things or maybe a much smaller team.

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Anyone who says robots will make more jobs is saying screw all the other people.

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