Recent comments in /f/singularity

blueSGL t1_j6ocz41 wrote

Reply to comment by fignewtgingrich in I love how the conversation about AI has developed on the sub recently by bachuna

UBI will act as the capitalism off ramp. The cushion needed to take the world from the current paradigm to the next without wide spread destabilization.

What's the next paradigm? That will completely depend on the speed that certain technologies proceed at, breakthroughs in the next few years will shape society going forward.

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crua9 t1_j6oas57 wrote

Reply to Is AI censorship an obstacle to its usefulness? by EVJoe

So I understand in some cases. Like you don't want the AI to help someone off themselves. But at the same time, is it the job of the company to censor it?

IMO as long as law doesn't force it. It shouldn't be censor

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CertainMiddle2382 t1_j6o8gwd wrote

Reply to comment by bacchusbastard in I love how the conversation about AI has developed on the sub recently by bachuna

It is another discussion, but in the West money is already a luxury credit.

In western europe, whatever you do, you will always have a roof under your head, heating between survival and comfort level, potable water, habeas corpus, no slavery/mandatory military service, something to eat, the right not to be beaten by your neighbors too often, healtcare at least of 90s technological level, hot shower from time to time, wifi to access all humanity knowledge and all audio/visual entertainment until the 2010s, for free.

Still people are depressed they are poor, when the poorest Europeans have way more than emperors of the past.

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CertainMiddle2382 t1_j6o79wf wrote

Reply to comment by Wroisu in How does society benefit from AGI? by beachinit23

Irony it that it can only be created under capitalism also :-)

I love Banks books. The Culture represents the most realistic vision of Heaven in my opinion.

The only possibility it could happen makes the risks of AGI and singularity acceptable, IMO.

The worst is we could get killed by our newborn God, pretty classy isn’t lol?

Deep down it is the humanist version of Pascal’s wager:

It is unreasonable to not try achieving the Singularity as soon as possible, if it could have even the slightest chance of being good.

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someonesomewherewarm t1_j6o6uhc wrote

Reply to comment by beachinit23 in How does society benefit from AGI? by beachinit23

>give me a sales pitch on how that singularity/AGI coming to fruition will benefit me as a normal middle class worker

I asked ChatGPT your question. Here's its sales pitch;

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The Singularity, or the arrival of Artificial General Intelligence (AGI), has the potential to bring significant benefits to everyone, including the middle-class worker. Here are a few ways:

  1. Increased productivity: AGI can automate many tasks and make existing jobs more efficient, freeing up time for people to focus on higher-level and creative tasks.

  2. New job opportunities: The Singularity is likely to create new industries and job opportunities in fields such as AI development, maintenance, and regulation.

  3. Improved standard of living: AGI can solve many global problems such as poverty, hunger, and disease, leading to an overall improvement in quality of life.

  4. Customized solutions: AGI will allow for more personalized and efficient solutions to individual problems, such as personalized medicine and education.

Overall, the Singularity is likely to bring greater abundance, freedom, and opportunities for personal growth and fulfillment.

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CertainMiddle2382 t1_j6o6s3k wrote

Reply to comment by RabidHexley in Andrew Moore is the head of AI at Google Cloud and the former dean of the Carnegie Mellon School of Engineering in Pittsburgh, where he has been at work on the big questions of AI for more than 20 years. Here he shares his vision for some of what we can expect over the next 10. by alfredo70000

I agree with you.

I believe the Turing test is or quickly will be achieved.

The question is what comes between that and true AGI and between AGI and singularity.

I believe some version of self improving AI will have to come first before anything else.

We are close IMO, once it can produce Python/Cuda/VDHL code better than the 10-20% best percentile, magic will happen…

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dasnihil t1_j6o5mzd wrote

Reply to comment by [deleted] in How does society benefit from AGI? by beachinit23

nobody is pointing out the direct benefit to humanity yet, and only focusing on nuclear fusion and all.

the wishful thinking is that once we have nuclear fusion, energy gets dirt cheap. how long will it take for the rich to let it go and not make citizens pay for basic things like food, water, electricity, HOUSE to live in and so on.

i hope that will take shorter time for them to work towards that future where basic requirements for living is provideD, including emotional support of whatever form.

look at it this way, we were primates once, we didn't care about art, emotions, sentiments and attachments in today's form. our consciousness has trancended the regulatory needs of a primate hardware and is now trying to engineer a society where everything needed for the primate hardware will be provided and we only get to sink in our conscious experience. i mean i love fucking but many more things too.

we got out of food chain, meaning none of us have to hunt for food now or fear death while at it. the moment we got out of food chain, our road till now has been how to provide for basic necessities with least suffering. we just have to keep continuing and faster. suffering is no good.

i'm balls high right now.

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RabidHexley t1_j6o5ji0 wrote

Reply to comment by CertainMiddle2382 in Andrew Moore is the head of AI at Google Cloud and the former dean of the Carnegie Mellon School of Engineering in Pittsburgh, where he has been at work on the big questions of AI for more than 20 years. Here he shares his vision for some of what we can expect over the next 10. by alfredo70000

That's my thought as well. Though it could mean that the AI could pass the Turing test "continuously". Changing topics and returning to previous topics without any oddities occurring.

Because yeah, a properly pre-prompted ChatGPT without hard topic limits (so no "I'm afraid I can't do that" moments) put against an unaware subject could definitely fool a lot of people for at least a short conversation.

I feel like a true capital P "Pass" of the Turing test would be something like a model that can be provided with a persona, background data and history (or come up with one on the fly), and carry on a conversation consistent with that persona of arbitrary length with a subject believing them to be human.

And then, be able to have that same subject come back on a following day, and be able to continue conversing with the model in a manner consistent with time having passed in the life of the simulated persona.

Even if there were still some limitations that would be the point where I'd pretty much consider conversational AI a "solved" problem, since it would just be a matter of degrees. Where you can have something like an AI assistant provide a consistent experience of "Personhood" (even if that person is an AI).

By the time that problem is solved though we will almost certainly be capable of making multimodal Psuedo-AGIs work at the very least. So it's hard to say how many years it will talk to solve the problems with current models preventing this capability.

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55redditor55 t1_j6o567c wrote

Reply to I love how the conversation about AI has developed on the sub recently by bachuna

I stay in the sub because 1/3 of the posts are actually news, the other 2/3 are just people who don't know about AI and don't have a background in AI telling us the exact day of singularity and how it will affect everyone because their girlfriend's cousin works the Starbucks at Microsoft. Oh and complaints about the free ground breaking tool, Chat GPT.

If I was a mod, I'd make a separate subreddit for discussions and these kinds of posts, they are nice to socialize, but very little comes out of them. With AI growing at the speed it's growing, it'd be nice to have a hub with just news, research papers and the sort; people can dick around in the comments all they like.

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