I actually have no idea if its still a thing, but yea I agree, mostly an issue of dermal-actuator interfacing

I’m a doctor and not that surprised, the questions are very algorithmic.

Do I think AI could make medical decisions? Absolutely.

At the expense of comparing myself to Paul Atreides, for which I apologize, being a doctor is like wedding the mentat and the Bene Gesserit - your android side is entangled with your emotion witch side.

Do I think AI could de-escalate the delirious dude with meningitis who was trying to flee out the door that I saw yesterday? Nope.

AIs would make amazing matrix doctors of still, sedated patients in tanks.

Do I think that doctors could be replaced by AIs and the role of physician would be taken over by a slightly-higher-trained nurse akin to a charge nurse, and all the other nursing staff would carry out the orders that the AI places? I fuckin hope so, then I would have an excuse to retire

Fuck, is that back?? I thought they got rid of it for good? Any robot with a good-enough skin and an American accent can pass that bullshit thing.

I’m a doctor who works with a ton of nurses -

1. It’s a vocation that needs to be taught from a human, to a human, mostly in the setting that the work will be done.

2. It’s important to have a basic understanding of medicine to be a nurse so you don’t accidentally kill someone when something happens out-of-the-algorithm.

Example: someone with too high of a blood sugar needs insulin. So if they’re in a state called diabetic ketoacidosis, they have an incredibly high blood sugar, so you’d think the first step is insulin, right? But insulin causes potassium to move into cells, and people’s total body potassium is super low in DKA because it’s getting peed out, despite their potassium blood levels looking fine. So if you push insulin, you’re going to cause all the potassium to shift into the cells, which can give someone a heart attack.

You can (and do) train people to memorize algorithms like “potassium and fluids, then insulin.” But I want the nurses who work with me to be their own smart, critically thinking, educated selves - it’s safer, it’s more rewarding, and your team gives better care.

3. Most schools nowadays, for anything, are outdated and largely bullshit. My medical classroom schooling from my school was disorganized and useless. I learned the material using 3rd-party online resources and Anki. My in-person training is what matters the most.

They don’t even need to ban the tech. Just certain uses of it. All they’d have to do is make it highly illegal to possess or distribute deepfake images without expressed consent from the people being depicted.

There's no way to prove video is real with something like blockchain or anything like that. In absolutely worst case, you can always emulate sensor in a real camera...

There's no chance we'll get ban on this sooner than these algorithms get open sourced. Not to mention it has legit uses. Really, what is going to happen is it will be even harder to get to a truthful and real content.

What is going to happen is we won't be able to trust every recording we see or hear, much like we do with text. That's it.

I don't want to sound rude, but maybe you should try to relax, or if it gets bad, therapy.

Yes, there is a chance someone will create some deepfake porn of you. And guess what, it doesn't have to be man :)

No, there isn't any way to prevent this, other than not having photos/videos/audio of you available at all.

Yes, the implications are insane... But not in a way you think they are.

Nothing will be trustworthy anymore. The politics would turn into much bigger shitshow than it is now. The news reporting will be plagued by fakes. But everyone's privacy will be much better than before.

Your ex leaked your nudes? Nobody will be able to say if they are legit, or if it's just a deepfake. A video of you jerking off got online, because you forgot to put a tape over camera? Surely that must be a deepfake. Audio of you drunkely confessing to infidelity? Deepfake.

If someone digitally stitches your face onto someone else's body in a porn movie... Why should you even care? There's no reason to worry.

https://www.reddit.com/r/OutOfTheLoop/comments/10rftru/what_is_up_with_the_qt_cinderella_drama/

Sometimes it takes time for the world to catch on fire, especially when you're starting with a baseline where increasingly abusive conventional porn is normalized.

Here are some ideas of the top of my head:

• Lawyer up. Prosecute deepfake porn creators. Build class action lawsuits. Form organizations that pay for prosecution.

• Legislate. Get the attention of communities, government, law makers. Get bills drafted and passed. Ensure that the laws are enforced.

• Educate. Spread awareness of the issues. There is a clear target demographic for people who might end up using deepfake porn. Reach them and have them understand why it's so disturbing to have this happen. Guide men and boys towards feminism. Teach girls and women about the technology, give them resources to educate themselves.

• Protect. Build tools to find deepfake porn so that it can be reported and deleted. Make these tools cheap and easy to use. For potential targets (streamers, influencers, youtubers) who would rather like to be faceless, give them options like virtual avatars (vtubers) and make those options cheap and easy. Work with social media platforms to spread these tools.

Oh you think that's bad? The right-wing in the US loves fabricating evidence of imagined crimes supposedly committed by their favorite punching bag minorities. I fully expect to see deepfakes of myself saying or doing fucked up shit within the decade based on how many people accost me at the bar and accuse me of being a sexual predator just because I'm trans.

Reasonably nothing can be done, except perhaps harsh punishments for people spreading deepfake stuff. But on a personal level it's impossible to regulate.

Yes you are correct. There are already many websites that offer deepfake options, and since you can upload any picture, and any video that you want to replace the faces in, people can upload whatever, and whoever, they want.

I'm quite happy that I'm not in school anymore. Cyberbullying will be so easy this way. School is such a fast moving social environment that even if you had detectors for deepfakes, nobody would care. Damage would already been done.

GPT-powered ATLAS has entered the room.

It doesn't really matter I suppose. Enough papers and research available for other groups/companies to make similar stuff. Matter of months.

That lab seems to be a good group of people, it would be sad if their work was stolen.

The Virtual Doctor will see you now.

Idk bro? Is yours?

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Such a good bot

>That is the silliest point of them all, with respect to the people you were talking to. First of all it can be said of many technologies, just think of space travel and the amazing discoveries it brought even indirectly. But even simpler: we haven't been doing that good in the last 40 000 years. Besides, that sounds a lot like an appeal to nature fallacy

Try to emphasize about that point. In another thread I mentioned three people (and their age) who engaged a topic with me. Such words (from 2nd point) came from youngest of them, who's 22.

The second person, which is 23, is a medical student, he's doubtful about complete handling to AI such work as art, but agrees that it's a powerful tool that enhances artists, writers and etc and can give them a lot of help. Out of three he seems most revelant and opened to topic. Of course, he excited about developments of biomedical AI.

The last one is an engineer, 28, just not so engaged in topic about AI and was brought to it partially after appearance of Generative AI and ChatGPT. But also sees potential in that technology.

The thing about deep fakes is it also creates “plausible deniability” the first wave will damage lives because people (public) will mostly believe they are real, then they will be commonplace and most will assume they are fake until proven to be real. Like a Rolex or a Fake LV handbag. So in the Porn example just assume everyone is going to have deep fake porn made using thier likeness so the social effects of such will be greatly diminished and easily understood, like catfishing or identity theft today it’s likely you have been a victim or know someone who has.

Weeeeeell… can you really say it did it without cramming when it was trained on all that medical data plus a heck of a lot more for who knows how long, specially since computers process data waaaaaay faster than we do, so in a sense it did a a shit ton of cramming.

Good thing it’s not actually sentient or it might have asked for it to stop XD

Totally agree on the fact that it's very important. It's just that we're not there yet and that AlphaFold is not made for that. Maybe a future descendant of it, but not AlphaFold itself.

The day we'll have that will definitely be a big deal for sure.