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just-a-dreamer- t1_j743f43 wrote
Reply to comment by ttylyl in Future of The Lower and Middle Class Post-Singularity, and Why You Should Worry. by ttylyl
In my time on this world I learned people care little outside their family life and work budies networks.
As long as there is just 3% unemployment, there is no demand for politicians to change anything.
ttylyl OP t1_j743d4h wrote
Reply to comment by visarga in Future of The Lower and Middle Class Post-Singularity, and Why You Should Worry. by ttylyl
I agree, but you could compensate rather easily by simply paying for 2x AI for 1/100th the cost of one human and one AI.
I agree that skilled jobs will be humans and AI together, but unskilled labor is called that for a reason, they aren’t focused on the quality, but the quantity.
BigZaddyZ3 t1_j743aa2 wrote
Reply to comment by Whattaboutthecosmos in Sam Altman: If you think that you understand the impact of AI, you do not understand, and have yet to be instructed further. if you know that you do not understand, then you truly understand. by Neurogence
The person who tells you that you have zero fucking understanding of the impact of AI.😬
visarga t1_j742w3h wrote
Reply to comment by ttylyl in Future of The Lower and Middle Class Post-Singularity, and Why You Should Worry. by ttylyl
Yes, it doesn't make sense to put humans do things that AI can do better. But the competition will use humans-with-AI to extract 2x from the AI, while you're using AI-alone at 1x rate. Everyone will have the same AI from Microsoft and Google, but humans are limited.
GenoHuman t1_j742u8d wrote
I don't think there is much to do about it and even then the entire internet will be filled with AI generated pornography of both real and fictional people soon enough.
ttylyl OP t1_j742llq wrote
Reply to comment by just-a-dreamer- in Future of The Lower and Middle Class Post-Singularity, and Why You Should Worry. by ttylyl
I’m of the opinion that maybe it’s intentional none of the people we are able to vote for end up helping us.
ttylyl OP t1_j742ce6 wrote
Reply to comment by savedposts456 in Future of The Lower and Middle Class Post-Singularity, and Why You Should Worry. by ttylyl
Tell that to every population avoidably/intentionally starved in the last century 👀
It can and does happen
just-a-dreamer- t1_j742bb0 wrote
Reply to comment by ttylyl in Future of The Lower and Middle Class Post-Singularity, and Why You Should Worry. by ttylyl
Looks like the wrong people get voted in. So we must do better then.
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Reply to comment by ttylyl in Future of The Lower and Middle Class Post-Singularity, and Why You Should Worry. by ttylyl
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Nmanga90 t1_j742853 wrote
No it’s too late lol. It’s advanced to the point where very accurate 3d models can be made from 2 pictures. Look up NVIDIA NERF
ttylyl OP t1_j7423k5 wrote
Reply to comment by visarga in Future of The Lower and Middle Class Post-Singularity, and Why You Should Worry. by ttylyl
This is true, but simple things can be handled by ai alone. And huge portions of are economy are simple enough it can do it alone. It is far, far cheaper to pay for AI than to pay for a human.
visarga t1_j741vp4 wrote
Reply to comment by Mortal-Region in Future of The Lower and Middle Class Post-Singularity, and Why You Should Worry. by ttylyl
> What will AI be laboring at if humans are out of the market?
Maybe it needs resources for self replication or evolution. AI might have its own needs.
ttylyl OP t1_j741p1y wrote
Reply to comment by just-a-dreamer- in Future of The Lower and Middle Class Post-Singularity, and Why You Should Worry. by ttylyl
Mate we’ve been voting for a while and we just keep getting poorer while our productivity skyrockets.
Rezeno56 t1_j741lna wrote
Reply to OpenAI To Launch ChatGPT App Soon by vadhavaniyafaijan
Boy, imagine the rate of downloads.
visarga t1_j741kg5 wrote
Reply to comment by ttylyl in Future of The Lower and Middle Class Post-Singularity, and Why You Should Worry. by ttylyl
> AI will dominate human labor and push them out of the market.
AI teamed with a human will dominate both AI and human. AI is much better with a human, and humans are better with AI. Since we have competition, every company will have to add AI to their current workforce and keep the people, because they are the differentiating factor. You can scale AI in the cloud, but you can't simply spawn people.
ttylyl OP t1_j741hmr wrote
Reply to comment by CollapseKitty in Future of The Lower and Middle Class Post-Singularity, and Why You Should Worry. by ttylyl
I agree completely about the arms race. I really think this is tantamount with the creation of the nuclear bomb. What scares me though is, like much technology, either will or has already been used by military orgs. Think about a mass gpt powered disinformation campaign. Ten million twitter users intelligently arguing disinformation, debating points, and seeding information. Scary stuff.
just-a-dreamer- t1_j741g23 wrote
Reply to comment by ttylyl in Future of The Lower and Middle Class Post-Singularity, and Why You Should Worry. by ttylyl
You have one vote, so that is up to you. I don't know what else to say.
There is no evil conspiracy that keeps people from voting. One man still has one vote and can cast it for whatever purpose he sees fit.
FDR won election not because people were poor, he won because they were poor and unemployed and he offered relief.
Any politician that offers relief, UBI eventually, would get voted in.
Whattaboutthecosmos t1_j741az3 wrote
Reply to Sam Altman: If you think that you understand the impact of AI, you do not understand, and have yet to be instructed further. if you know that you do not understand, then you truly understand. by Neurogence
Who would be the one that has the understanding of the impact of AI that would be able to instruct someone further?
starstruckmon t1_j7415oi wrote
Reply to comment by Flaky_Preparation_50 in Former Instagram Co-Founders Launch AI-Powered Personalized News App, Artifact by Flaky_Preparation_50
Good. The format is perfect. All that needs work is the visual design of the site, and automating this to work on a large scale ( I don't know how much of that is automated ).
Flaky_Preparation_50 OP t1_j740tr1 wrote
Reply to comment by starstruckmon in Former Instagram Co-Founders Launch AI-Powered Personalized News App, Artifact by Flaky_Preparation_50
> strips out all the narrative, opinion and fluff and just gives me an aggregated bullet point list.
lmk what you think. latest article here
CollapseKitty t1_j740n7p wrote
Reply to comment by Ivanthedog2013 in Future of The Lower and Middle Class Post-Singularity, and Why You Should Worry. by ttylyl
You are 100% right, but the chance of that is infinitesimally small, let's talk through it real fast.
Your hope is that AGI/ASI is misaligned with the intentions of its creators (corporations). Ok, totally feasible, very likely in fact based on what alignment specialists are warning of.
Here's the sticking point, you are hoping that, while the agent will not follow the desires or instructions of its creators, it will ultimately be aligned with the "greater good" for lack of a better term, or specifically in this case, your desired outcome. This is extremely improbable, especially as even minor misalignment is likely to have apocalyptic results.
Realistically we have 2 feasible scenarios if things continue as they are, misalignment resulting in total obliteration or proper alignment which grants unbelievable power to the very few who reached AGI first.
So what are the alternatives? Revolution taking place and uprooting the current systems on a global scale paired with collective enforcement of standards for AI development. These MUST be coordinated at a universal level. It doesn't mean anything if the US slows down all AI research and forces cooperation between companies if China decides to barrel ahead to achieve global dominance via AGI.
We're in an extremely precarious arms race right now, and it's far more likely than not to end up terribly for almost everyone. The only route I can see is to collectively align humanity itself as soon as possible, and that's obviously an overwhelmingly daunting task.
ttylyl OP t1_j740eys wrote
Reply to comment by just-a-dreamer- in Future of The Lower and Middle Class Post-Singularity, and Why You Should Worry. by ttylyl
The issue I’m seeing is that the populations would be in two and a half classes: unemployed low skill people, employed high skill people(things needed after AI, so like notaries, maybe doctors, entertainers, people to work on/monitor AI) and AI owning people(large investors in openai, connected people, etc.)
Eventually they will realize that using their ai/robot labor power to feed house and fund the unemployed lower skill people doesn’t help their goals, so they will spend less over time. This will happen faster with competition, the more you spend on the non-ai owning class, the further you get behind the people who don’t.
If this continues the unemployed former working class will be functionally pushed from society, they won’t be able to use their work as a method of negotiation, like labor unions etc. our lives will be at the whim of people who already clearly don’t care if we’re poor. What happens when they don’t need us at all?
visarga t1_j7407nv wrote
Reply to comment by clearlylacking in OpenAI To Launch ChatGPT App Soon by vadhavaniyafaijan
What will these kids do in the future when they don't have chatGPT 3.5? Use chatGPT 35?
visarga t1_j7400r1 wrote
Reply to OpenAI To Launch ChatGPT App Soon by vadhavaniyafaijan
I hope it is text and voice based, not text only.
Ribak145 t1_j743w11 wrote
Reply to Future of The Lower and Middle Class Post-Singularity, and Why You Should Worry. by ttylyl
I mean the current system still needs consumers