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Neurogence t1_j757kr4 wrote

Reply to comment by Pavvl___ in Possible first look at GPT-4 by tk854

If the rumors aren't fake, Google will be adding a chatbot to their front page very soon. But I too will ditch Google if Bing adds GPT4. At least until Google releases lambda on their frontpage.

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Neurogence t1_j757fn0 wrote

Reply to Possible first look at GPT-4 by tk854

So not all rumors are fake. People were saying that semafor article was garbage.

This is interesting so far but not groundbreaking yet. I'm hoping the rumor that GPT4 can code entire programs also is not fake.

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FiFoFree t1_j753sx3 wrote

Reply to Future of The Lower and Middle Class Post-Singularity, and Why You Should Worry. by ttylyl

>The owning class has never let us in on the profits of increased productivity, and for the first time in human history we will be all but completely excluded from the means of production. What happens next?

  1. Somebody decides to let us in, and we live.

  2. Nobody decides to let us in, and we die.

End of options.

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There's no classical dystopian middle ground of people being left to live poor, miserable lives in a world where a ruling class has zero need for them and no scruples about being rid of them. Either you believe that somebody in that ruling class has a heart and decides to let everyone in on what promises to be resource richness beyond human comprehension, or you believe they're all stone-cold and inhuman, capable of ridding the world of anyone not like them without so much as a second thought.

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Because with the tools they'll have at their disposal, it's one or the other.

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ttylyl OP t1_j74w3hf wrote

Reply to comment by ihateshadylandlords in Future of The Lower and Middle Class Post-Singularity, and Why You Should Worry. by ttylyl

The issue I’m seeing is that the populations would be in two and a half classes: unemployed low skill people, employed high skill people(things needed after AI, so like notaries, maybe doctors, entertainers, people to work on/monitor AI) and AI owning people(large investors in openai, connected people, etc.)

Eventually they will realize that using their ai/robot labor power to feed house and fund the unemployed lower skill people doesn’t help their goals, so they will spend less over time. This will happen faster with competition, the more you spend on the non-ai owning class, the further you get behind the people who don’t.

If this continues the unemployed former working class will be functionally pushed from society, they won’t be able to use their work as a method of negotiation, like labor unions etc. our lives will be at the whim of people who already clearly don’t care if we’re poor. What happens when they don’t need us at all?

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ihateshadylandlords t1_j74ukn2 wrote

Reply to comment by ttylyl in Future of The Lower and Middle Class Post-Singularity, and Why You Should Worry. by ttylyl

What good is owning the means of production if you have no customers? Companies exist to maximize shareholder value. Owning a bunch of inventory that no one can buy doesn’t do anything for shareholders.

Also even if a company gets too powerful, they’ll just nationalize it or break it up like they did with Standard Oil.

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