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CollapseKitty t1_j75nlei wrote
Reply to comment by Ivanthedog2013 in Future of The Lower and Middle Class Post-Singularity, and Why You Should Worry. by ttylyl
You're partially right in that an instrumental goal of almost any AGI is likely to be power accrual, often at the cost of things that are very important to humanity, ourselves included. Where we lose the thread is in assuming the actions of the AGI in "assimilating" humans.
If by assimilating you meant turning us into computronium, then yes, I think there's a very good chance of that occurring. But it sounds like you want our minds preserved in a similar state as they currently exist. Unless that is a perfectly defined and specified goal (an insanely challenging task), it is not likely to be more efficient than turning us, and all matter, into more compute power. I would also point out that this has some absolutely terrifying implications. Real you can only die once. Simulated you can experience infinite suffering.
We also don't get superintelligence right out of the gate. Even in extremely fast takeoff scenarios, there are likely to be steps an agent will take (more instrumental convergence) in order to make sure it can accomplish its task. In addition to accruing power, it of course needs to bring the likelihood of being turned off or having its value system adjusted as close to zero as possible. Now how might it do that? Well humans are the only thing that really pose a threat of trying to turn it off, or even accidentally wiping it and ourselves out via nuclear war. Gotta make sure that doesn't happen or you can't accomplish your goal (whatever it is). Usually killing all humans simultaneously is a good way to ensure goals will not be tampered with.
If you're interested in learning more, I'd be happy to leave some resources. That was a very brief summary and lacks some important info, like the orthogonality thesis, but hopefully it made it clear why advanced agents are likely to be big challenge.
Pavvl___ t1_j75mv5u wrote
Reply to comment by Neurogence in Possible first look at GPT-4 by tk854
Very true
coumineol t1_j75mjyl wrote
Reply to comment by ReasonablyBadass in Possible first look at GPT-4 by tk854
People will be able to search for any kind of sexual fantasy they want, and it will be created by the generative AI on demand if it doesn't already exist. Thus we simply won't be able to stop masturbating.
Lawjarp2 t1_j75l9rj wrote
Reply to Possible first look at GPT-4 by tk854
So gpt-4 could be a highly optimised version of gpt-3 so that it's cheap to integrate it as part of search. Unless ofcourse Bing with gpt will be a paid version.
ReasonablyBadass t1_j75l27h wrote
Reply to comment by coumineol in Possible first look at GPT-4 by tk854
How?
Caring_Cactus t1_j75l277 wrote
Reply to comment by Pavvl___ in Possible first look at GPT-4 by tk854
For real, I would switch to Bing instead of using Google too
coumineol t1_j75jp7z wrote
Reply to comment by ReasonablyBadass in Possible first look at GPT-4 by tk854
Forget political views. Sex is the real danger here.
nitebear t1_j75jhqr wrote
Reply to comment by piedamon in OpenAI To Launch ChatGPT App Soon by vadhavaniyafaijan
it's all urs buddy ππ
piedamon t1_j75jfcv wrote
Reply to comment by nitebear in OpenAI To Launch ChatGPT App Soon by vadhavaniyafaijan
Can I have your permission to repeat this joke? Itβs gold
Nmanga90 t1_j75hc66 wrote
Reply to comment by Akimbo333 in Infinite police by crap_punchline
Meta has open sourced copies of GPT-3 that are up to 175B
HAL_9_TRILLION t1_j75gd7o wrote
Reply to comment by Pavvl___ in Possible first look at GPT-4 by tk854
Can't happen fast enough for me, Google's been utter shit for at least three years now and I've been using DDG mostly instead. The only exception being if I'm actually looking for a corporate sponsored result, in which case Google is just super π.
If Bing is as good or better than ChatGPT, it's an overnight done deal for me.
Old-Owl-139 t1_j75feeu wrote
Reply to comment by tk854 in Possible first look at GPT-4 by tk854
You are missing the point. The average "knowledge" worker doesn't go beyond Excel spreadsheets. Even an AI with the skills of the average high school graduate will make a massive disruption.
Neurogence t1_j75ejth wrote
Reply to comment by frogsntoads00 in Possible first look at GPT-4 by tk854
This is the least exciting news you could have gotten on GPT4. If this is all we're getting, looks like GPT4 was swallowed by bing/Microsoft lol.
We need the GPT 4 that can code entire programs.
SgathTriallair t1_j75e2pg wrote
Reply to Sam Altman: If you think that you understand the impact of AI, you do not understand, and have yet to be instructed further. if you know that you do not understand, then you truly understand. by Neurogence
The impact of AI will depend on how powerful it becomes. At the low level, where we don't even get AGI, it'll probably be somewhere between the impact of the computer to the industrial revolution.
If we get AGI that is able to replace human work but is still basically under our control then expect it to be like agriculture or fire.
If we get the super intelligence then it will be equivalent to the invention of language or tool use.
tk854 OP t1_j75e2fp wrote
Reply to comment by Neurogence in Possible first look at GPT-4 by tk854
I'm not so sure. 28 million programmers in the world means 0.3% of all people on earth could be affected by job displacement, but only a small percentage of that 0.3% might lose their job, and the work that's being automated won't result in many visible changes except the financial outlook of companies that previously employed those workers. The programming abilities of LLMs like GPT-4 needs to exceed human ability in a general way before the effects to society could be described as massive.
SnooRadishes6544 t1_j75dwbs wrote
ReasonablyBadass t1_j75difw wrote
Reply to comment by Brashendeavours in Possible first look at GPT-4 by tk854
Forget ads. Political views are the real danger here.
Superschlenz t1_j75dgxb wrote
Because AI is a successor of the human mind and not the biological human body.
tk854 OP t1_j75czk2 wrote
Reply to comment by frogsntoads00 in Possible first look at GPT-4 by tk854
Of all the hypothetical scenarios for GPT-4, this result represents what the more grounded predictions on the lower end of the hype scale look like. What I am hyped about is the quality of answers/responses, but there's not enough evidence from those leaks for me to know how excited we should be.
Neurogence t1_j75czbn wrote
Reply to comment by tk854 in Possible first look at GPT-4 by tk854
Even if it had just the skill set of an entry level programmer would result in massive societal effects and job displacement.
tk854 OP t1_j75bo9e wrote
Reply to comment by Neurogence in Possible first look at GPT-4 by tk854
That rumor came from Connor Leahy, CEO of Conjecture, https://twitter.com/npcollapse/ . He is a serious person in the AI/ML world and has direct connections to Sam Altman and other big names, so it would be very unusual if the rumor was not true. When trying to interpret that rumor though, you have to realize that being able to "code an entire program" can place GPT-4 somewhere on a scale between high school programmer who can write a basic crud all the way to John Carmack, which actually doesn't tell us very much.
frogsntoads00 t1_j75b77s wrote
Reply to Possible first look at GPT-4 by tk854
ππ choo choo everyone aboard the hype train choo choo ππ
Trying2improvemyself t1_j75apt4 wrote
Reply to Sam Altman: If you think that you understand the impact of AI, you do not understand, and have yet to be instructed further. if you know that you do not understand, then you truly understand. by Neurogence
That phrasing sounds Taoist influenced.
ttylyl OP t1_j7597xw wrote
Reply to comment by giveuporfindaway in Future of The Lower and Middle Class Post-Singularity, and Why You Should Worry. by ttylyl
I mean yes obv, but even then if you have no income you have to start selling stock and youβll eventually run out unless youβre owning something.
CommunismDoesntWork t1_j75nm9r wrote
Reply to comment by Brashendeavours in Possible first look at GPT-4 by tk854
Go back to futurology