Recent comments in /f/singularity

crua9 OP t1_j7ennrc wrote

Reply to comment by [deleted] in What is the price point you would be OK with buying a humanoid robot for personal use? by crua9

You're viewing it as a person. I mean I get your point, but it is something we made. We could just as equally make it where it hates us.

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Now with that being said, I understand where you are coming from. But I don't purely agree with you. If you apply that type of logic, many things break down. Like the age. Lets say it was made 3 years ago. Is it 3 years old, or is it 3,000 years old when you add up all the other robots and some mass server somewhere which is a major part of the brain.

I do imagine when we get to that point everything will be different, and most anyone reading this will be long dead.

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Beneficial_Yogurt_22 t1_j7d49u6 wrote

Reply to What will happen to the Amish people when the singularity happens? by uswhole

So the biggest threat is just generally draining the system of money. So the more money a program can drain from the entire system the more land they can afford to buy. Making everything else have less breathing room to function in.

Basically assuming we don't let AI just consume all the land then they'll be fine. Doing what you always did will always work assuming no externals change.

Of course externals are always changing and I think ai is going to have profound implications on what capitalism even means.

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94746382926 OP t1_j7bxri5 wrote

Reply to comment by TerrryBuckhart in Should ChatGPT Screenshots be Banned? (Petition) by 94746382926

I have no problem with the tech being used. In fact I think it's exciting and everyone should use it if it benefits them. I just don't care to see screenshots everytime someone inputs a prompt they think is interesting lol. It'd be like if when smartphones came out I posted screenshots of everytime I found a new app I thought was cool or something.

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Frumpagumpus t1_j7bm6rk wrote

Reply to comment by ComplicitSnake34 in What will happen to the Amish people when the singularity happens? by uswhole

i think your worst case scenario is actually the best case scenario but I dont think you've really put much thought or justification into some of the properties you think that scenario will have.

I harp on these points in like every other comment, but here we go again...

> hive mind

no, the importance of data locality to computation means intelligence and especially self awareness will be NECESSARILY distributed, however, the extreme speedup in communication/thinking, maybe a million times faster, MIGHT (maybe probably would) mean that to humans, it would seem like a hive mind.

> the Ai could easily determine which minds are to be erased

my take is that post human intelligences will intentionally copy and erase themselves because it is convenient to do so. Human take on life and death is a cultural value associated with our brains being anchored to our bodies.

my guess would be that most of this copying and erasing would occur under one's own will. Obviously computer viruses would become analogous to a much much more dangerous version of modern biological viruses. However if I had to bet, while bad stuff would happen I would bet it would happen at a rate less than bad stuff currently happens at a population level in our society (any given individual would be much less likely to die in an accident or disaster).

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DeltaV-Mzero t1_j7bamyk wrote

Reply to What will happen to the Amish people when the singularity happens? by uswhole

They are actually a model for where the general population will head long term, if we are at least allowed enough land to live on.

Most humans won’t have anything to offer the capital / property owners in terms of labor value

Which means they don’t get paid, and can’t buy things

Which kicks the ladder out from under nearly every worker industry, they’re all built to make money from consumers

What’s left after the economy evaporates will be automated, vertical supply chains feeding the whims of the very elite rich.

The rest of us will have no way to participate, nothing of value to trade. But there’ll be so many of us that a new, entirely separate, unregulated economy will form.

It’ll be based around subsistence and low tech survival, as it’ll have to function on materials which the elite capital class have no interest in.

So…. With or without the religious angle, a good life will look a lot like an Amish life

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headypete42033 t1_j7axupi wrote

Reply to What will happen to the Amish people when the singularity happens? by uswhole

I think the Amish are very important with the singularity. We almost need two parrallel societies where one doesnt have electricity. Half way want to become Amish soon to wait out the crazy future and jump in if and when the time becomes right.

I also think its important for us to get into permaculture, and create food forests and not be dependable too much for our food supply,

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