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Our world is made with the human form in mind.

So, unless you want to have hundreds of robots at home, one for each specific task, probably the human form is the best you can get.

They would look better than humans.

This, haha.

And anyway for those chores you don't need a personal maid 24/7. Most people have one like, 4-6 hours a week or something like that, and in my country you can get that for less than 5K/year...And most people don't get one.

I also said 1k because if I can't trust it to be with pets and kids it means that I can't trust it and need supervision. Honestly, that thingy does not a place in the market. Even the most simple robot will have to be very very safe to be comercialized.

If I can't trust it its just a roomba... Maybe 2k, but I certainly don't have the money for much more for something that I have to keep a watch on..

I would mate with it

Well, it also depend on the guarantee...

I mean, If I expect something to last 20 years I would pay more than if I expect it to last 2.

I'm going to assume that in all cases they are expected to last 10 years.

Level 1: 999. This is a glorified vacuum cleaner. And if I don't trust it do take care of a pet I don't trust it for my good either. Honestly I expect the first batch to be better than this, closer to lvl 2, but without sex of course.

Level 2: 19.999. Now we are talking, that is a robot.

Level 3: 39.999? Honestly, not sure. I mean, It's very cool, But do I really need to go from 2 to 3? I mean, with 3 the only advantage is that it can be your friend-slave. Not really sure how that's gonna work. And anyway I'm not sure I can afford more haha. I mean, this is a pretty unrealistic assumption anyway, because this robot (probably evev the level 2) could do my job, so why would I have any income to be able to afford it?

I'm giving those prices assuming that I still have the same purchasing power that I have now. And with that, 19.999 means 166/month, 39.999 means 333/month.... Not sure if I can pay much more considering that having one of there will not save me any money. It will save me a lot of time.

And I have doubts between lvl 2 and 3. Maybe the difference would be even lower.

And honestly, lvl 1 doesn't make sense. Level one would need to be almost at level 2 capabilities to be consumer ready... Just for safety. For a robotic servant that can take of everything in a robotic way, haha. That should be lvl 1.

Anyway, looking at how much I'm willing to pay... I will certainly not be an early adopter haha. I'll probably have to wait a decade or so to get a cheap old model. If I'm still alive.

Oh, well....

I think a maid would cost you that for 1 year or max 2 years (since we are talking 24/7 around the clock care). So assuming that the robot would be capable of functioning for anything more than 2 years would already bring you in a solid gain even if it were to cost up to 100 000$. Now assume it would be able to function for 5+ years (with maybe some minor 20% maintenance costs), the price point for purchase could easily be increased by the seller to a few hundre thousands easily.

Exactly. Like yes, that is how much it costs to hire a maid, and I don't hire a maid, so clearly I'm not willing to pay that price point for something that does the work of a maid. I can't justify that kind of expense to have someone else do things I can do myself for me. If it can do things like repairs, the price I'm willing to pay would probably go up a fair bit, because those aren't skills I have and so I would otherwise be paying for that work.

Yep, OP didn't ask what it's worth, he asked what I would pay for it.

Even if it can do all the house hold chores, I'd need a house to live in for it to clean. I won't have a house anymore if i drop 50 grand on a bot to do the dishes for me

I don't think it's that they don't know what it's worth, I think they just don't have that kind of money to throw around.

whats the maintenance cost like? how long before it blue screens?

Humanoid? Probably close to $0. I want a useful robot that can be task specific, not confined to one form.

Edit: So, OP asks a question about a personal opinion...I give my opinion...people shit on me and downvote. Reddit has such awesome "communities" 🙄

I might be the odd one here, but I would never want to own a humanoid robot.

I find them cool and a but always having one in my home would probably freak me out.

Jeez, how lonely is OP?

>They likely will be too dumb to even drive you They can do basics like cleaning, some cooking, taking trash out, and stuff like that. But outside of this basics they will have to be babysit

As expected of someone that has having sex with a robot top of mind: Doesn't realize how incredibly complex and sophisticated a robot would have to be to do cleaning, "some" cooking, and taking out the trash.

Completely out of touch with reality. $1000 for something that can do all this is hilarious considering a sophisticated roomba can get up to $1500.

A cleaning service can cost $65-250 an hour depending on the size of your home and they don't even cook for you.

The "limitations" seem completely arbitrary, too. So, it has the object detection and fine motor skills for "some" cooking (whatever that means) and can navigate your house for cleaning and even, presumably, outside to "take out trash". But is "too dumb to drive a car".

Anyway, level 1 could easily save you at least $20k worth of labor per year. Paying $50k for it would probably still be a steal.

The other levels are even funnier. People are already paying $15k for driver assist software systems that don't even work well in a number of instances. A robot that can drive you around and also do other complex tasks would easily be worth over $200k. You can rent it out as a taxi/maid and make your money back.

yes exactly, the people saying it's $1k have no idea what anything is worth. A personal maid that does all the chores 24/7 would cost around $50k.

You're saying a robot that cooks and cleans for you is worth less than $1k? That's laughable. It's easily worth like $50k. If there were other robots on the market, then it would go down to like $25k. A few generations later it would come down to like $10k. I would pay pretty much any price for a robot that can do everything a human can.

Lol have you heard of subscription locks? DLC? This is where capitalism explodes my dude

If it can vacuum, dust, clean the bathroom, wash floors, mow lawns then 50K.

Capitalism is just the nature of things when people having a lot, invest to have more. Combined with property law and a functioning state actually enforcing those laws.

I absolutely don’t see how it would change a bit especially today when those capitalst know better and better how to steer people’s wants, mostly through social networks and drugs.

Level 1: $1000 or below. It would just serve as a general maid.

Level 2: $5000-$45,000. I would most likely stop at this point as it is realistic enough for a relationship and smart enough to act as a maternal figure for my kids

Level 3: $50,000-above. It seems interesting but not worth it, I think. I wouldn't want something so expensive to age and look old. I think the point of robots is for them to be better than humans. It would need to pull off insane feats for me to wanna purchase one of these, like self-healing and / or flying.

>Why would the robot manufacturers sell their creations to get money which they can spend on goods and labor, instead of cutting out the middlemen by simply having their machines build and labor for them?

It is HIGHLY likely robots will be making robots. Elon Musk even was extremely open about this and this is how they will drive the price down. IDK if he will hit his $10k goal. But he openly said the first bit he will be making robots to work in his manufacture plants.

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Also, money is likely to not gone away. UBI most likely will be here. But this doesn't fix scarcity.

Level 1: A good auto vacuum is already $500+, and you add on being able to take the trash out and clean my house and maybe even do something like mow the yard too? Would definitely pay up to $2,000 for it, and that cap is only because I'm poor

Level 2: These are like buying a car, easily worth $5,000-50,000 based on what you can afford

Level 3: There's not even a limit on what these would be worth. The real limit would be whether it's even ethical to "own" one or not

>Yes, I am viewing it as a person, and coming in from the ethical side. Remember, that even in Battlestar Galactica, the mechanical Cylons turned on half the humanoid Cylon council upon removal of the 'inhibitor' chip.

It has been a while since I seen the show. But wasn't the inhibitor chip was meant to keep them from turning on the owner? Wasn't the council doing extremely questionable stuff when that happen?

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>Putting in place an artificial constriction on the conscience of Level 3 (in your example) would be unconscionable and unethical.
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>Take creation as a starting point. People can create children, they can also limit them to Level 1 (and technically Level 2) through Lobotomy or in near future, neural implants. That doesn't make them 'owners' of their creation. It makes them monsters.

But you are overlooking how we know kids will become more. Where there is a hard limit towards how robots will be based on how we made them.

It should be looked as more of a tool.

>You are right. What is their age? I don't know. These are questions that need to be answered before they become tragedies.

My point is, when you start looking at it as human. People will 100% sleep with these things. Maybe do not so nice things.

Then it gets into the question about level 2.

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I like to view it like the robots in the TV show Humans. Where before the update they were robotic servants. Where they had no feelings or anything unless if they were programmed. They were tools

Where after the update when they got that ability. They became a person.

By the time we’ve reached Level Two, capitalism as we know it will be breaking down. Why would the robot manufacturers sell their creations to get money which they can spend on goods and labor, instead of cutting out the middlemen by simply having their machines build and labor for them?

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