I think a better way of thinking about this would be cost per user. How many hours a day do you spend doing the various errands around the house? If a robot was operating 16 hours a day how many households could it support? If we say it can make enough food to support 10 families a day and then in the remaining time do all the various chores spread over a week, the per household cost is 10k + electricity spread over X years. If a robot loan is 5 years like regular auto loans, it may be $2500 a year all considered

Yes, level (robot slaves) are almost priceless. Unless the market is oversaturated.

It’s also a scaled down version, not the full version.

Yes, very true. But in this particular situation i think they would be strongly related.. because the only thing that really matters is which one is better and easier to use.. whatever that is, that will be more popular.

But true that not necessarily. But then again this will be adopted earliest by the more tech savvy parts of the populations, and what they choose will also have a strong influence on what other more normal people will start to use.

Or people will just be like "Oh google assistant is better now" and bing people will be like.. "Oh, finally, i can talk with Bing!"

What makes it horrible? Have you used it?

I bet Microsoft. So far they seem to be willing to actually make their developments public and taking risks.

Oh right, thank you! I remember seeing something written about Bard recently.

https://blog.google/technology/ai/bard-google-ai-search-updates/

Better Vs more popular are very different metrics

What specifically is terrible about it?

Wow, so to the people who think Google will do better, what do they have that could compete with ChatGTP?

I think it is very possible that eventually Google can come up with something better than ChatGTP. For sure, with the resources they have.

But at the moment? Lamda does not seem to be as suited for what ChatGTP can do. They are just quickly hurrying to build something that can imitate CGTPs abilities. Unless they have already been working on a similar system.

Have you guys even tried lamda ?! Its horrible. At least the version they are granting people early access to. I cant help but assume everyone is still riding off the perception that google is the biggest and baddest in the game.

Ask yourself why they invested in chat gpts biggest rival

I mean yeah

Taking into account the latest news, the deep conversation is much closer than taking the trash out.

Its also interesting to think about corporations as super intelligent agents making changes in the world. Google might be becoming more evil and evil. But googles deepmind is a company that i do have faith in.

Demis Hassabis (CEO of deepmind) is an amazing human being and you can see that he genuinely wants good for humanity.. so, that makes me feel a bit better about it. And they already have applied AI to many fields to solve many problems we are facing.

And they also have some agreements to limit the evil that google could ever make deepmind do, but i am too lazy to go look up the details right now. Would love to hear if someone remembers.

google is turning more evil and evil.

that or niche uses in factories/warehouses or something.

There are some externalities to project here. If this happens AFTER full self driving, then everyone that has a car is likely paying 1/4 the price for regular transportation (no car payments, insurance, fuel, maintenance). I expect self driving taxis to happen before humanoid robots. I am in the US top 20% (but not in the top 10%).

1. $20-30k being able to automate *simple* gardening, some cooking, and regular housekeeping (cost of housekeeper is 200-300/month and they do less, gardening is 100/month ). I do these things myself because it's (barely) worth it, but a 20-30k robot would cost 300-500 a month. That would relieve stress.
2. For me there's no extra value in this, I'm assuming self driving taxi BEFORE this robot exists. I also believe that since we crossed the 20% threshold for shopping online we'll rapidly go to 80-90% over the next 5 years (5 years is the minimum time I think we have before level 1 appears).
3. I don't think this is feasible in the next 30 years, but it would be worth as much as a modest house.

Paying for a robot to be your husband / wife, 100K at most, is already way cheaper than any real spouse / divorce you will ever have.

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I imagine the short term will be so limited that the robot will be a novelty for rich people

The $10k thing is presumably in the long run. Short term early gen versions are gonna be super expensive and maybe only available like on-lease for enterprises and whatnot.

Furthermore... if it's a simulation of a technological society, it might have to be shut down eventually, because if the simulated people advance far enough to create their own simulations -- perhaps millions of them -- then the strain on the computer would be too great. The simulation would slow to a crawl, and more urgently, it'd run out of memory.

Level 1 would be $30k and up, minimum. Market would be upper middle class and wealth people in households with children and both parents working, etc. Someone living on their own in an apartment or condo won't need this...but a family with a large house and lots of things keeping them busy....hell yes.

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Level 2 the sky is the limit. Floor price would be $75k and probably way more. It'd be like getting a very high end luxury car.

If you think about it, you do the same when you try and see things from someone else's perspective. You take on their point of view and you model their reactions as realistically as possible.

And when you done, you just discard them.