Recent comments in /f/singularity
TotalMegaCool t1_j7qunhd wrote
Reply to I asked Microsoft's 'new Bing' to write me a cover letter for a job. It refused, saying this would be 'unethical' and 'unfair to other applicants.' by TopHatSasquatch
So they are saying that all them times clippy helped my write a letter, he was being unethical?
dontpet t1_j7qtlhd wrote
Reply to AI Progress of February Week 1 (1-7 Feb) by Pro_RazE
I'm a casual reader on this sub with a systems engineering background and don't understand most of those headlines. I do understand a few and the implications of those are huge.
Let's hope humanity somehow manages to adapt to this.
Our current laws and governance structures are so slow they won't be able to do much. It will be like shooting at a bunny based on where it was a week ago.
Temporyacc t1_j7qrk1p wrote
Reply to comment by Unfocusedbrain in I asked Microsoft's 'new Bing' to write me a cover letter for a job. It refused, saying this would be 'unethical' and 'unfair to other applicants.' by TopHatSasquatch
In a way I agree with you, lots of dumb people, but deciding what other people can and cannot handle is a dangerous slippery slope.
In my opinion, the most ethical answer is to let people decide for themselves where their own line is. This technology isn’t limited by the one-size-fits-all approach that we’re used to, each person can have their own tailored product that doesn’t impose on anybody else’s.
This technology has the most incredible potential to either be democratizing or tyrannizing. Who controls what it can and cannot do is where that that dichotomy hinges.
bustedbuddha t1_j7qr7c4 wrote
Reply to comment by crua9 in I asked Microsoft's 'new Bing' to write me a cover letter for a job. It refused, saying this would be 'unethical' and 'unfair to other applicants.' by TopHatSasquatch
As I see it, If there's no society there's nothing to prevent someone from simply forcing you to do what they want, If that's acceptable to you ethically than it is acceptable ethically for people as a whole to do it. The state of nature cannot offer freedom and in fact you do exist in that state of nature, If you choose to live according to what authority can be imposed, you can do so.
edit: to be clear this is the very basis of my stance as an Anarchist in that "society is simply forcing people to do things" is the starting point I think we should operate from. And I think a Just society can only be had if we recognize that Authority does not exist other than as the threat of violence. And I think laws/society should be written/structured in a way to maximize the freedom you describe, understanding that if we actually want to maximize justice/freedom/good there must also be economic justice and therefore complex economic structures.
crua9 t1_j7qp2dg wrote
Reply to comment by bustedbuddha in I asked Microsoft's 'new Bing' to write me a cover letter for a job. It refused, saying this would be 'unethical' and 'unfair to other applicants.' by TopHatSasquatch
>If you want to have an ordered society
What if I don't? My point is we are forced and there is litterally no where to go on earth where you truly own yourself, what you have, and land. Note if you have to pay taxes on it or someone else can tell you what you can do with your land or whatever then you don't own it.
But that is out of scope of what I was pointing out.
realGharren t1_j7qoglb wrote
Reply to I asked Microsoft's 'new Bing' to write me a cover letter for a job. It refused, saying this would be 'unethical' and 'unfair to other applicants.' by TopHatSasquatch
Me: Help, I'm bleeding from a cut! What should I do?
Google: Clean the wound and apply pressure.
Bing: I'm sorry, telling you would be unfair to people who have bled out.
LastInALongChain t1_j7qntuv wrote
Reply to comment by bustedbuddha in I asked Microsoft's 'new Bing' to write me a cover letter for a job. It refused, saying this would be 'unethical' and 'unfair to other applicants.' by TopHatSasquatch
the government is unethical, its exists to threaten people at the point of violence into following the rules (laws) the country lays out.
What if I want to do heroin for the rest of my life? Why is that unethical? Its unhealthy, but its ultimately my choice. Its illegal because it would make me a drain on government systems and unable to provide tax income or contribute to the economy. To that end the state would choose to enslave me via incarceration if I chose to disobey.
You can say the gov't is necessary to make society function, but it is ultimately unethical.
bustedbuddha t1_j7qn89u wrote
Reply to comment by crua9 in I asked Microsoft's 'new Bing' to write me a cover letter for a job. It refused, saying this would be 'unethical' and 'unfair to other applicants.' by TopHatSasquatch
Your problems are with the particulars of who's in power. If you want to have an ordered society, which I would argue is a generally good thing even as I also think authority is a bad thing, you're going to need there to be taxes.
You have to pay for things and to an extent it's necessary for currency to have actual meaning. Of the bad ways of distributing means it is the one we've arrived that that's generally in itself not terrible.
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(we could have an extended conversation about how someone who's philosophically inclined to anarchism could pragmatically be a Progressive (in political alignment) Liberal (in terms of structure of government) but I majored in political philosophy which rends my personal philosophy somewhat complicated.)
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also I give no fucks about downvotes, I have plenty of Karma to spare.
petburiraja t1_j7qmts1 wrote
Reply to comment by Unfocusedbrain in I asked Microsoft's 'new Bing' to write me a cover letter for a job. It refused, saying this would be 'unethical' and 'unfair to other applicants.' by TopHatSasquatch
we are taking about oracle who on top of answering questions, can generate questions on its own
Arcosim t1_j7qmtki wrote
Reply to comment by Temporyacc in I asked Microsoft's 'new Bing' to write me a cover letter for a job. It refused, saying this would be 'unethical' and 'unfair to other applicants.' by TopHatSasquatch
As more models appear, a lot of companies will have the lack of restrictions and filters as their selling point. Availability and market competition will force their hand.
BlessedBobo t1_j7qmk87 wrote
Reply to comment by [deleted] in I asked Microsoft's 'new Bing' to write me a cover letter for a job. It refused, saying this would be 'unethical' and 'unfair to other applicants.' by TopHatSasquatch
ah so you're a honey maker? fascinating, i know i shouldn't be telling you your job, but you should put a big H on the box, so everyone knows there are hornets inside. and you should smoke the hornets before milking their honey.
bernard_cernea t1_j7ql6di wrote
Reply to I asked Microsoft's 'new Bing' to write me a cover letter for a job. It refused, saying this would be 'unethical' and 'unfair to other applicants.' by TopHatSasquatch
Other applicants can't use Bing? what a lame memtality
blueSGL t1_j7qkcza wrote
Reply to comment by jason_bman in Just watched Googles Bard launch event and I am completly underwhelmed. by Nico_
What a plodding boring presentation, even at 2.8x it still feels slow.
crua9 t1_j7qj8n6 wrote
Reply to comment by bustedbuddha in I asked Microsoft's 'new Bing' to write me a cover letter for a job. It refused, saying this would be 'unethical' and 'unfair to other applicants.' by TopHatSasquatch
It is unethical because
- no one asked to be born
- no square inch of this earth isn't directly controlled by a gov and they will move you around if you get rid of your citizenship
- a lot of what they say taxes are going for doesn't go for that. It gets moved around and screwed with. It's like the mafia collecting protection money
I can keep going
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BTW sorry misunderstood your comment. This is likely for the downvotes btw. It sounded like you were saying asking the AI is unethical.
bustedbuddha t1_j7qicaw wrote
Reply to comment by crua9 in I asked Microsoft's 'new Bing' to write me a cover letter for a job. It refused, saying this would be 'unethical' and 'unfair to other applicants.' by TopHatSasquatch
No, they're a necessity if you're going to have currency and civilization. Meanwhile asking people for a cover letter (especially for jobs which are not about writing) is a way of asking people to do uncompensated work for you, so you can figure out who is most like you and hire them. They tend to serve to gatekeep jobs to ensure that only people who are already well off, or are already middle class, can have a reasonable chance of getting them.
crap_punchline t1_j7qgpey wrote
Reply to I asked Microsoft's 'new Bing' to write me a cover letter for a job. It refused, saying this would be 'unethical' and 'unfair to other applicants.' by TopHatSasquatch
So if the AI can't do a job application, is it ethical if the AI is helping you to do work? How is that fair to other people who also do your job? That means the next time you compose your resume, your achievements will have been AI assisted, which is also unfair to other applicants.
Will AI be able to fucking help you with anything whatsoever? lol, so fucking shit
fastinguy11 t1_j7qfu31 wrote
Reply to comment by TopHatSasquatch in I asked Microsoft's 'new Bing' to write me a cover letter for a job. It refused, saying this would be 'unethical' and 'unfair to other applicants.' by TopHatSasquatch
yea could be a few years until we have decent a.i that is mostly unfiltered
94746382926 t1_j7qe8gy wrote
Reply to comment by Full_Ad2934 in Major leak reveals revolutionary new version of Microsoft Bing powered by ChatGPT-4 AI by Phoenix5869
It was announced yesterday and it has access to the internet. It can pull data from other websites and cite sources.
94746382926 t1_j7qe4js wrote
Reply to comment by Borrowedshorts in Major leak reveals revolutionary new version of Microsoft Bing powered by ChatGPT-4 AI by Phoenix5869
Now that it's been officially announced we know it's using an improved version of GPT 3.5 (what ChatGPT is based on). There was nothing to indicate it would use GPT 4, just shitty clickbaity reporting.
[deleted] t1_j7qdnr1 wrote
Scoimies t1_j7qdlqo wrote
Reply to comment by Borrowedshorts in I asked Microsoft's 'new Bing' to write me a cover letter for a job. It refused, saying this would be 'unethical' and 'unfair to other applicants.' by TopHatSasquatch
I feel bad for people named Tom, Dick and Harry but the rest of us have internet out here!!
dr_set t1_j7qda68 wrote
Reply to I asked Microsoft's 'new Bing' to write me a cover letter for a job. It refused, saying this would be 'unethical' and 'unfair to other applicants.' by TopHatSasquatch
That is dumb as hell. It's not "unethical", other applicants can do the same and if they don't, they will actually have better chances because they will stand out from the crowd using AI to write it.
We all copy from others, ask help from friends and family or from professionals, we need to stop pretending that we don't and that we are "original". I wrote my first cover letter 15 years ago by googling an example on the internet and changing it a little because I had no idea what to put in it and I have never seen one before.
Same crap with the artist and AI generated art drama. Every single artist in the face of the planet learned by coping what countless others do and did, exactly the same as AI.
jason_bman t1_j7qd2yl wrote
Reply to comment by Guesserit93 in Just watched Googles Bard launch event and I am completly underwhelmed. by Nico_
They didn’t even give the video a useful tittle. So weird.
crua9 t1_j7qczo3 wrote
Reply to comment by bustedbuddha in I asked Microsoft's 'new Bing' to write me a cover letter for a job. It refused, saying this would be 'unethical' and 'unfair to other applicants.' by TopHatSasquatch
Taxes are unethical. This is stupid
inspectorgadget9999 t1_j7qupla wrote
Reply to I asked Microsoft's 'new Bing' to write me a cover letter for a job. It refused, saying this would be 'unethical' and 'unfair to other applicants.' by TopHatSasquatch
As it's called Bing, all responses should be in the style of Chandler Bing: "Could that be more unethical?"