Recent comments in /f/singularity

nutidizen t1_j7wpixo wrote

Reply to comment by Sad_Laugh_8337 in Generative AI comes to User Interface design! This is crazy. by RegularConstant

> Beware to all UX/UI designers -- AI is coming for your jobs and mine as well (software dev). It might look silly now (it doesn't to me) but a year is a HUGE amount of time for AI to develop -- it will replace us its a guarantee.

Go to r/programming and they will tell you how irreplaceable they are. lol

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TFenrir t1_j7wkzff wrote

Reply to comment by [deleted] in The copium goes both ways by IndependenceRound453

They stated that in a cagey round about language way.

They further clarified, I even asked about that here (in this sub full of non experts) and someone clarified.

Additionally, GPT4 would not be used for search. Anything they are using for search is going to be a tiny model with much faster and cheaper inference, something that scales for a search engine. Hypothetically if GPT4 was even 500 million parameters, it would be untenable to use for search

Edit: here's where someone shared a link and a quote for me

https://www.reddit.com/r/singularity/comments/10w9p6n/-/j7mszte

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TFenrir t1_j7wjdqv wrote

Reply to comment by petermobeter in The copium goes both ways by IndependenceRound453

That seems like a pretty uninformed take, weirdly. For example, I could share with you a dozen papers from Google alone that highlight their progress in AI outside of just language models - and those old chat bots are so fundamentally different than today's... It's like comparing Google search indexing to a very large if else statement. Not even in the same ballpark of functionality.

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MrEloi t1_j7wjbb5 wrote

Reply to The copium goes both ways by IndependenceRound453

Many people here do not lead content lives, so they turn to AI and other technologies

I have suspected for years that humanity is lonely .. hence the endless yearning for aliens or AI.

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betsla69 t1_j7wj0ax wrote

Reply to The copium goes both ways by IndependenceRound453

Who is an expert in AGI? Did they invent it and they know exactly how far we are away? Here's a hint: It's all BS. Nobody knows jack.

What matters is, can we get machines to do useful human work today. The answer is becoming a hard YES. I have seen multiple fear for their jobs, but also get super excited that they don't have to do boring work anymore and focus on growing their market.

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I'm pretty much the same. Afraid of the what will happen as we approach a singularity event but also excited about all the possibilities. We won't even have to reach a full AGI singularity to change the future of everything.

Shit is about to get weird over the next few years.

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TFenrir t1_j7wibx3 wrote

Reply to The copium goes both ways by IndependenceRound453

I think there's all kinds of people here, but I know the type you are describing. I think to a lot of people, the singularity feels like the most likely way they will get heaven.

I wonder where I stand on the spectrum when I'm trying to be self critical. I have a very good life, I make good money, have lots of social... Extra curriculars and fun hobbies, and I sincerely love life and have always loved it.

Would I love a best case scenario for AI? Absolutely, who wouldn't?

But that's not the reason I think it's inevitable. I've been following lots of people who are really really smart, Demis Hassabis, Shane Legg, Illya Sutskevar, and more... People who are actually building this stuff. And I see how their language has changed.

I think you'd also be surprised about how many experts are increasingly moving up their timelines. We can look at forecasting platforms for example, and we can see the shift.

Out of curiosity, what experts are you referencing when you say most don't think we'll get anything transformative anytime soon?

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Sashinii t1_j7wg4nt wrote

Reply to The copium goes both ways by IndependenceRound453

>A huge reason why this sub is uber-optimisitic is because many people on this sub use the singularity (something which isn't even a guarantee to happen ever, or at least not in their lifetime) as cope for their lives, lives that they are not very happy with. Many people here do not lead content lives, so they turn to AI and other technologies as the thing that's going to save them (which I find quite sad, to be honest).

I think the optimism largely comes from AI progress accelerating, and with strong enough AI, that'll enable the advent of other technologies which will be able to solve every problem.

>But of course, the singularity doesn't mean jack if it's not coming anytime soon, so that's why you see so many people claim that it's only a few years away, a decade at most, and those comments tend to get a lot of upvotes. On the other hand, comments that are more conservative get downvoted a lot (I wonder why?).

Arguments become weaker the more conservative they are because of exponential growth.

>And this uber-optimism is the case despite the fact that most AI experts don't think we'll have a singularity-like event for at least a few decades, if not longer. And that's not even taking into account social, economic, and political factors that are almost a guarantee to delay the arrival of the singularity.

A lot of experts changed their tune when it comes to their AI predictions in 2022 when it became clear that AI progress occurs faster than they thought. But even if they didn't, so what? Many experts have been wrong, not just regarding controlled flight (which is the most common example), but also regarding atoms, molecular nanotechnology, AI as good as it already is, etc.

I don't take what experts say as gospel; I care about the actual details, and if the evidence goes against what "experts" say, I won't dogmatically ignore reality.

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GayHitIer t1_j7wfol0 wrote

Reply to The copium goes both ways by IndependenceRound453

ad hominem, also not everybody on this sub believes in some utopian salvation.

Most people here are quite realistic about the dangers that ASI poses.

Also why post this to a sub where you know it's gonna be biased towards sooner than later?

If you truly knew that from the start why post this post unto this sub?

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Erophysia t1_j7wam1k wrote

Reply to comment by Mementoroid in I asked Microsoft's 'new Bing' to write me a cover letter for a job. It refused, saying this would be 'unethical' and 'unfair to other applicants.' by TopHatSasquatch

>- because it is illegal even when illustrated.

I thought SCOTUS ruled otherwise.

As for your other arguments, they seem to be condemning pornography in general since any genre of porn can be argued to dehumanize and commodify any demographic in question, especially women, but any demographic really. So just so we are clear, are you arguing for the outright banning of pornographic material? For that matter, how is porn defined and measured? Current federal law classifies porn as being images of buttocks, genitalia, or a woman's breasts. Naked baby pictures could technically be qualified as porn by this definition, as can photographs taken for an anatomy textbook.

Where do we draw the line?

Edit: The device you're typing on was no-doubt produced, in part, by child slave labor overseas. It would seem this contributes far more to the exploitation of children than AI-generated images.

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Agarikas t1_j7wa9ze wrote

Reply to comment by Mementoroid in I asked Microsoft's 'new Bing' to write me a cover letter for a job. It refused, saying this would be 'unethical' and 'unfair to other applicants.' by TopHatSasquatch

Yes, but ethics vary even more within the same culture. Me and my neighbor both pay taxes because it's the law, but we have very different sets of ethics. That's normal. Basing something on universal ethics is a fool's errand.

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