Recent comments in /f/singularity
nikolameteor t1_j87qr84 wrote
Reply to comment by boredapril in Generative AI comes to User Interface design! This is crazy. by RegularConstant
I don't think UBI's gonna happen any sooner than 10 years until we see massive job layoffs and people start to protest on the street.
YobaiYamete t1_j87q47y wrote
Reply to comment by Chonkthebonk in Are you prepping just in case? by AvgAIbot
No they aren't lol
We have the entire solar system worth of resources which is already more than we could reasonably use, and then there's the entire galaxy beyond that.
By the time we even started to run out of stuff from the asteroid belt alone, we would long since have reached a stage where we could just upload our brain to a computer instead and live in a digital paradise tailored to each person, without having to screw around with traveling to distant star systems for more
FiFoFree t1_j87q1pj wrote
Reply to comment by socialkaosx in Are you prepping just in case? by AvgAIbot
Honest question:
What keeps you going?
Chonkthebonk t1_j87oja4 wrote
Reply to comment by YobaiYamete in Are you prepping just in case? by AvgAIbot
Post scarcity is a myth resources are finite
YobaiYamete t1_j87nxm6 wrote
Reply to comment by Unfrozen__Caveman in Are you prepping just in case? by AvgAIbot
> How exactly is the machine going to generate income if capitalism or some sort of goods and services economy doesn't exist? Who is going to pay the machine? Other machines? Income doesn't just magically appear out of thin air...
"Income" itself is a concept that won't exist in a post scarcity society.
If you have a replicator that can easily spit out anything you need including other replicators, then you very quickly reach a situation where you don't need much of anything besides just mass to feed the replicator.
We aren't at that stage yet obviously, but once AI start massively improving 3D printers we won't be far off, and then it will just turn into a situation where people re-use trash from landfills and materials from asteroids etc to refine into other products, and you only work for fun, rather than as a necessity.
People and AI will still keep advancing tech, but "income" won't be required for much of anything. UBI would turn into a government issued ration fund for your replicator and that's about all that would be mandatory
YobaiYamete t1_j87nmo4 wrote
Reply to comment by RowKiwi in Are you prepping just in case? by AvgAIbot
"We've used AI to create a map of your personality and memories, so you can continue working even after death"
Saerain t1_j87ngvi wrote
Reply to comment by SgathTriallair in Are you prepping just in case? by AvgAIbot
I do think it shifts the likelihood of different types of attacks more heavily toward EMPs, at least.
hello_yousif t1_j87mcjj wrote
Reply to comment by kinetsu_hayabusa in Are you prepping just in case? by AvgAIbot
What like a social credit score
Saerain t1_j87m75z wrote
Reply to Are you prepping just in case? by AvgAIbot
I only have precautions against the most likely moves from Luddites. Nothing else seems predictable.
SgathTriallair t1_j87kdki wrote
Reply to Are you prepping just in case? by AvgAIbot
Most of this is stupid. If we have a murderous AI take over then the very act of you prepping will highlight you for elimination.
For a lack of UBI "prepping" means building up savings and learning skills that will keep you relevant. This is something everyone should do even if there are no AIs.
The rest of these are run off the mill wars or terrorist attacks and have nothing to do with AI. They would or would not happen just the same regardless of whether the attackers are using AI tools.
Any prepper tendencies should not be affected by the existence of AI.
Lawjarp2 t1_j87k2tq wrote
Reply to Everybody is always talking about AGI. I'm more curious about using the tools that we have now. by levoniust
Why do that when AGI can do it for you? Lol.
But seriously, why? Why put so much effort into it when the newer more advanced ones can do it for you with less effort.
chrisc82 t1_j87j1lg wrote
Reply to comment by the-powl in Recursive self-improvement (intelligence explosion) cannot be far away by Kaarssteun
The tools we created in the past were used to create better tools, which were then used to create even better tools, and so forth. Self-improving AI is the spark that will really get this party started.
kinetsu_hayabusa t1_j87hqs9 wrote
Reply to comment by Unfrozen__Caveman in Are you prepping just in case? by AvgAIbot
Income comes from production. Doesnt matter if made by a machine or a human. I believe in the beginning of transition the gov will need set high taxes to AI companies. In far future, there will be no money at all. All the goods and services made by AI robots for free. Maybe every human could have a score that reflexes his actions in society and can use this to buy a nice car or house. Crazy science fiction but not impossible
Iffykindofguy t1_j87h8sw wrote
Reply to Are you prepping just in case? by AvgAIbot
God no, what a waste of energy and time. Even if shit does collapse, which I don't think is impossible though extremely unlikely, this shit isn't a tv show.
the-powl t1_j87grwv wrote
Reply to comment by TopicRepulsive7936 in Recursive self-improvement (intelligence explosion) cannot be far away by Kaarssteun
>Technological recursive self improvement has always been going on in the background
What do you exactly mean by that?
Tiamatium t1_j87g684 wrote
Reply to Everybody is always talking about AGI. I'm more curious about using the tools that we have now. by levoniust
First of, "don't judge a fish for it's ability to climb a tree" is a load of bullshit. No one asks children to be experts in multiple fields, we are asking them for bare minimum knowledge in multiple fields. It's an excuse, a stupidity and laziness fueled excuse, which brings me to my second point, in the future (and to a large degree even now, especially if you are on Reddit) what will truly separate haves and have-nots is ability and willingness to learn new things. YouTube is already full of lectures on every subject imaginable, companies like Amazon and Microsoft will give you free server, to run your web app, etc. The barrier for entry is no longer money, it's the knowledge. Which brings me to my third point, why "revolutionize" children education when adult education needs it even more?
If you are truly serious about something like that, you should realize that adults need and want to learn too, they need education, they want education, and most importantly, they do not have the same barrier for entry, they do not have legal constrain. Second, yes, with technologies like chatGPT we are very close to personalized tutor for every student, and we need that. I believe Arthur C Clarke predicted that back in 60's.
Unfrozen__Caveman t1_j87fcas wrote
Reply to comment by kinetsu_hayabusa in Are you prepping just in case? by AvgAIbot
How exactly is the machine going to generate income if capitalism or some sort of goods and services economy doesn't exist? Who is going to pay the machine? Other machines? Income doesn't just magically appear out of thin air...
Who owns the machines? Nobody? Other "CEO" machines?
Desperate_Food7354 t1_j87fapt wrote
Reply to Are you prepping just in case? by AvgAIbot
bro go to r/collapse this ain’t the place
[deleted] t1_j87f8d2 wrote
Reply to comment by Tiamatium in The naivety of arguments on both sides of the AGI debate is quite frustrating to look at by Particular_Number_68
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Tiamatium t1_j87eh3g wrote
Reply to The naivety of arguments on both sides of the AGI debate is quite frustrating to look at by Particular_Number_68
Reddit is full of 15 years olds, are you surprised the debate here has all the level of nuance a 15 years old brain can handle?
BinyaminDelta t1_j87ec8a wrote
Reply to Are you prepping just in case? by AvgAIbot
General prepping for broad scenarios -- from power outages, riots, ice storms, or pandemics -- without going totally crazy is the smart approach, historically.
TopicRepulsive7936 t1_j87durr wrote
Reply to The naivety of arguments on both sides of the AGI debate is quite frustrating to look at by Particular_Number_68
Transformers are really close to something like a general learner. If people had that in their meme arsenal they might use it instead of general intelligence.
The guy bringing up Eliza, which is only a weird knowledge flex, should make his own subreddit for his strange fixation.
Caring_Cactus t1_j87d97y wrote
Reply to comment by RowKiwi in Are you prepping just in case? by AvgAIbot
Damn bro I know you're half joking, but this hits real for many people, sad reality :(
TopicRepulsive7936 t1_j87cnls wrote
Reply to comment by throws_ra in Are you prepping just in case? by AvgAIbot
Life is bullshit anyways. Sue your parents for damages.
tedd321 t1_j87qt74 wrote
Reply to Are you prepping just in case? by AvgAIbot
Unless there is a clear sign, the singularity is just a dream. There are no horns blaring yet. We just have a chatbot.
Don’t become a tinfoil hat guy