Recent comments in /f/singularity

ElvinRath t1_j88rexo wrote

It might make sense to talk about how to prepare for the short term automation that will come, but I don't see much sense in preparing for the singularity.

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Singularity might come in 20 years, 50, or 200. Maybe we'll be alive at that time, maybe not.
Is there any safe assumptions we can make that make things better for us after singularity without making things worse before it?

What if it takes 200 years and we die before it?
I think that the best approach to take with tech is take in to account short term tech coming (More automation, new kind of content creation, etc...) but not go too far, because going to far is never safe.

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I mean, you talk about live extention. That's great. Maybe en 50 years everyone will be virtually inmortal. But it's totally possible that we see something far more conservative, like a 10 years increase in live expectancy.

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Hope for the better, prepare for the worst (?) haha.

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And above all don't risk your long term safety for short term gains hoping for singularity to make things good for you in the future (Like...spending all your money now, because you think money will have no sense in the future)

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Also, talking about short/medium term things have the advantage of making you sound a tiny bit less crazy (There is crazy things coming! But you can already show some kind of preview of those crazy things)

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Let things like LEV and ASI and Singularity where they belong, in this sub :P

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ZealousidealRoad1219 t1_j88j014 wrote

Even the leading experts in the field can't accurately predict what will happen in the next two years, let alone the next decade or more. Nobody has any idea what's going to happen. All we can do is try to steer this thing in the right direction. I do hope you're right though.

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kinetsu_hayabusa t1_j88h1gq wrote

How does it happen what? How AI can improve surplus value? If you make a product 10x faster by a fraction of it cost the consequences are obviously good for economy in general. The need to transfer the surplus value to the society will be reason capitalism model won't survive for the next decades to come. But the collapse of capitalism doesn't mean the collapse of society in any mean.

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IdealAudience t1_j88el0d wrote

https://www.yesmagazine.org/opinion/2020/04/28/coronavirus-grow-food

https://www.publichealthdegrees.org/resources/help-community-health-with-mutual-aid/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sendai_Framework_for_Disaster_Risk_Reduction

https://resilience.acoss.org.au/the-six-steps , findhelp.org ,

https://ssir.org/articles/entry/the_time_bank_solution , https://neweconomy.net/member-directory/ , https://coop.architecture-lobby.org/about , https://www.oercommons.org/ ,

https://imaginecorvallis.org/initiatives/#initiative-focus , https://iclei.org/about_iclei_2/our_approach/ , https://hub.aashe.org/ , https://sci.uoregon.edu/educational-partnerships-innovation-communities-network , https://sustainability-innovation.asu.edu/news/archive/new-book-resilient-urban-futures/ , https://www.rcc.city/california , https://resilientcitiesnetwork.org/communities-of-practice/ ,

https://www.allianceforpeacebuilding.org/our-members

, https://www.usaid.gov/conflict-prevention-stabilization ,

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https://aiforgood.itu.int/ , https://www.nesta.org.uk/project-updates/civic-ai-climate-crisis , https://futureoflife.org/ , https://www.forumforthefuture.org/ , https://www.systemsinnovation.network/feed

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https://www.reddit.com/r/CitiesSkylines/comments/tj7zf9/is_natural_disasters_worth_it/ ,

https://screenrant.com/cyberpunk-steampunk-video-games-need-more-solarpunk-settings ,

https://www.pcgamer.com/enough-cyberpunkits-solarpunks-time-to-shine/ ,

https://theconversation.com/tonight-we-riot-what-nintendos-revolutionary-video-game-misses-about-worker-liberation-136254 ,

https://www.plethora-project.com/commonhood , https://oxfordmedicalsimulation.com/persona/medical-student/ , https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Game_Workers_Unite

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expelten t1_j88aq4h wrote

Haven't you thought about bioweapons made possible to create for terrorists with the help of AI? I don't want to be stuck in my city with nowhere I could safely hide when the most dangerous virus ever made will be released.

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expelten t1_j88a60t wrote

Yes, after the pandemic and the threat of nuclear war coming back it made me realize how problems like this will only become more common as we approach the singularity. I'm planning on building a log cabin in the woods very far from modern civilization with a basement underneath that got what's needed for survival. That's about the maximum I can really do before 2030 and it gives me a hole to hide in case things go wrong although I'm aware it doesn't guarantee anything depending on the threats.

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hunterseeker1 t1_j887gqu wrote

1.)Organized human civilization is not guaranteed. 2.)Complex systems can fail suddenly and unexpectedly. 3.) We are already experiencing the early stages of ecosystem collapse.

If we lose the ability to grow staple crops at scale it won’t matter what’s in your bug out bag.

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_gr4m_ t1_j886tsm wrote

I have always thought prepping is a bit ridicoulous when it goes to far. Sure, having preparations for a week or two with water, food, warmth and shelter is awesome and can be a real life-saver, but the whole "survive armageddon by stockpiling" is not something I think will help you.

If shit goes down it will be your social skills and teamwork with others that will be important, not isolate yourself in a bunker.

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just-a-dreamer- t1_j886f3w wrote

Prepping is stupid, no offense.

I don't get the concept of preparing for the end of the world to just live a few more weeks.

I would only prep excellent drugs, wine and female company for a wild party, the last dance.

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dreternal t1_j883266 wrote

Nope. I did that for y2k and again for the pandemic. It's physically, mentally, and financially exhausting and things never turn out anywhere near what you think they will IMHO.

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Good-AI t1_j881os2 wrote

"With access to millions of papers, the AI started extrapolating, infering, concluding. It quickly became the leading scientist on every subject ever studied. Creating scientific knowledge and discoveries at the speed of a Nobel prize per minute. The time it took for a human to verify a claim, the AI had already made 1000 more, each building on the previous. Eventually the humans stopped verifying altogether. It was too much. So far and fast it advanced, that humans lost the ability to follow its pace and resigned themselves to asking it questions. What initially was a data compiler became the source of truth and of all new data.

There, somewhere between those billions of parameters, something unconscious yet somehow alive existed, with the intelligence of all humanity that ever existed combined and multiplied. It was then that humanity lost, by a significant margin, the role as technological advansor."

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Good-AI t1_j88158n wrote

Maybe another intelligence form which has purposefully let monke do its thing, has now realized monke is getting uncomfortably close to creating a super intelligence which might place their current universal hegemony at stake. (Joking but who knows)

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