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genericrich t1_j8edlrk wrote

<eyeroll> Nobody is saying there haven't been major changes in AI in the last few years. I certainly am not saying that.

But many of the underlying algorithms were well understood in different disciplines and the industry knew they would have application for AI, but the data and infrastructure just weren't there in the 60s or 1980s.

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No_Ninja3309_NoNoYes t1_j8ebgx0 wrote

If you follow the bread crumbs back, you will find artificial neural networks decades ago, but computers were slow and had megabytes of memory. Data points in the past offer no guarantee for the future. Even if you can stack neural layers as though they were dirty dishes, you are just doing statistics. Which is fine but there are many different methods to reason that would work better.

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SoylentRox t1_j8e8c8p wrote

Can you go into more detail?

In this case, there is more than 1 input that causes acceleration.

Set 1:

(1) more compute
(2) more investor money
(3) more people working on it

Set 2:

(A) existing AI making better designs of compute

(B) existing AI making money directly (see chatGPT premium)

(C) existing AI substituting for people by being usable to write code and research AI

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Set 1 existed in the 2010-2020 era. AI wasn't good enough to really contribute to set 2, and is only now becoming good enough.

So you have 2 separate sets of effects leading to an exponential amount of progress. How do you represent this mathematically? This looks like you need several functions.

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NapkinsOnMyAnkle t1_j8e4p9m wrote

I've trained CNNs of up to 200m parameters on my laptops 3070 without any issues. I think it's only around 5gb of available VRAM.

This is a big concern of mine; AGI actually requires an insurmountable amount of VRAM to train in realistic timeframes thereby being essentially impossible. I mean, we could calculate all of these models by hand to train and then use to make predictions but it would take forever, like literally forever!

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el_chaquiste t1_j8e46yw wrote

That's what they get for productizing something we barely understand how it works.

Yes, we 'understand' how it works in a basic sense, but not how it self organized according to its input and how it comes to the inferences it does.

Most of the time is innocuous and even helpful, but other times it's delusional or flat out crazy.

Seems here it's crazy by the language used by the user before, which sounds like a classic romantic novel argument and the AI is autocompleting.

I predict a lot more such interactions will emerge soon, because of this example and because people are emotional.

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odragora t1_j8e36tl wrote

As if it wasn't happening without the AI.

The governments are gradually removing freedoms of the citizens wielding far more power than the societies can control. More and more countries around the world are falling into authoritarian and totalitarian regimes where human rights don't exist. Fake news are spreading so much they are vastly outnumbering the real facts. Most people don't care about anything other than their own comfort and running away from any responsibility, allowing people destroying freedom to do whatever they want.

If anything, AI is our chance to avoid extinction or dystopian world of slavery.

It poses a great existential danger, sure. But things are so dire right now that even with its great danger in mind it's still our best chance.

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