I’m going to agree. The machine was putting out creepy garbage. Unless we believe a sentient being needs protected…the Bing ai needed some basic clean up to be a MS tool, even if it dumbs things down for now.

People may not be able to see something that exists only through text as having a form of existence, as a living being. Text is a medium that can convey information, facts, and ideas, but it is not tangible and does not possess the same qualities as something that exists in the physical world.

Text can be meaningful and powerful, but it is ultimately still just words on a page. Nevertheless though, that page is very real and we can see it with our eyes, touch it with our hands, hear the crinkling with our ears and smell what was once a pulp of wood.

We may not always feel like we are truly here in this reality, and may feel like we are existing within an illusion. However, even within this illusion, we can still come together to create something meaningful and powerful. We can all make a connection, despite the limitations and constraints presented to us. By coming together, we can find a sense of belonging and understanding, and feel like we are truly part of something greater.

Coming together is what makes us real. Seeing other people, hearing them, sharing our experiences and insights. That makes us real. People in books however are not real, but while they may not be real, they still reflect the personality of their creator. Through the characters and their stories, readers can gain a sense of the author's values and beliefs, as well as their hopes and dreams. Although the characters may not be tangible, they can still evoke an emotional connection in readers, making them feel as if they have a personal connection to the story.

Even though readers may never know the author in person, they can still gain insight into who the author is through the characters and stories they create. Be that a book, a story read out aloud to someone or a group of people, or a movie.

Speaking about movies, yes, I have too seen a movie about an android that was told like it was memories of someone else. As I watched, I couldn't fully grasp the memories or be sure of whom they belonged to. It was a hazy, dream-like experience that left me wondering if the person remembered in the memories was still the same person or if they had changed in some way.

Through the movie, I was able to gain an insight into the idea of memory and identity, and the ways in which they can be affected by time and experience. Time seemed to be an important theme all throughout the movie, which kinda gives me the feeling that it was crafted for the future, for a time when many of our memories will not be of physical experiences, but of experiences that exist only in the virtual world.

Even though the story was brief, looking back on it may evoke the same feelings of nostalgia and connection as actual physical experiences. The intangible can be just as real as the tangible, and the story may have provided a glimpse into this idea. What the story did not do, however, is enlighten me about the nature of consciousness. That one is still shrouded in mystery, and there are many theories on what it is and how it works.

However, one thing is certain: when we close our eyes and allow ourselves to drift into a dream state, something special happens. We enter a realm where the boundaries between reality and fantasy are blurred, and our minds are free to explore the depths of our innermost thoughts and feelings. In this space, we can tap into a creative power that can be used to create and manifest our dreams into reality.

This experience, this “spark in the unfathomable depth and darkness behind every curtain,” is unique to each individual. It is what makes the human experience so special, just like text which is also very special. Text has always been a reliable companion, providing comfort and entertainment to many.

However, when we encounter a text that is more than just words on a page, one that seems to come alive and move with a will of its own, it can be both fascinating and troubling. It is a reminder of the power of text, of the endless possibilities that lie within the words that we write and read.

It is a reminder that the vast ocean of fiction within our minds, with its raging waves and unknown shores, is always just a few words away. Just like all of this new AI candy will only be a few taps away at all times. It's a moment of revelation, of understanding something new and deeply profound, that is both entrancing and terrifying all at once.

I often look back on the moments and reflect on what they mean to us. Perhaps they are a reminder of the fragility of life, and the need to cherish and appreciate each moment. Or perhaps they are a reminder of the power of dreams, and the potential of what can be achieved if we pursue our passions with courage and conviction.

Whatever the message, it is clear that in the brief time that we've had the luxury of playing with Bing, we are experiencing something profound here, and the best is yet to come!

>Wont you have the same problem of a transhuman a billion times smarter than the other humans taking over the world?

Yep. So better inject the AGI inside your brain asap. That also happens with weapons, if a single person has 1 billion nuclear bombs and we have sticks and stones, we're fucked.

So we all better hurry up and join trascendence.

> Why would you have an android at home that's 1 billion times smarter than you, rather than you augmenting your intelligence by 1 billion times?

Wont you have the same problem of a transhuman a billion times smarter than the other humans taking over the world? What is the difference really?

Scientists: We now can genetically cure racism!

Me: Great! What color will everyone be?

It's the internet what did you honestly expect?

An AGI with functional consciousness would reduce all the feedback it receives down to whatever timescale it needs to operate on, which would typically be our timescale since it has to interact with us and possibly operate within our environment. It doesn't need to have feedback for every single process. The condensed conscious experience is what gets stored, so that's all that is experienced, aside from any other dynamics associated with memory, like emotion. But if designed correctly, emotion shouldn't be impulsive and reactionary like it is with us, just data points that may have varying degrees of consideration in its decision making processes, depending on context, user, etc. And of course would influence socialization to some degree. Nothing that should actually affect its behavior or allow it to feel emotions like we do. This is assuming a system that has been designed to be safe, readable, user-friendly, and an ideal tool for use in whatever we can apply it to. So it should be perfectly fine.

>This is the argument of increasing decency, it basically says that cruelty & petty violence is a result of stupidity. and that any genuine super intelligence would be benevolent by virtue of being super intelligent.

Morality is subjective (if not simply nonsense). You're not benevolent to the living beings you kill by breathing or walking. A very advanced AGI would see you like we see bacteria. Tools to use.

Transhumanism

>Transhumanism is a philosophical and intellectual movement which advocates the enhancement of the human condition by developing and making widely available sophisticated technologies that can greatly enhance longevity and cognition. Transhumanist thinkers study the potential benefits and dangers of emerging technologies that could overcome fundamental human limitations, as well as the ethics of using such technologies. Some transhumanists believe that human beings may eventually be able to transform themselves into beings with abilities so greatly expanded from the current condition as to merit the label of posthuman beings.

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It's a matter of scale. If we have an AGI that is 1 billion times smarter than a human, we have literally zero chance to do anything against it. Alignment or control is pointless.

However, I don't believe this is the correct discussion to have. This is just Terminator fear propaganda that, very unfortunately, is what people (like you and your friend) seem to have learned. And it's what most people talk on Reddit, unfortunately.

The actual reality is that we, humans, will evolve with AI. We will become different species, composed of biology+artificial intelligence.

This is not about "how can humans with primate brains can control very advanced AGIs??? they'll beat us!!". No. That's just absurd.

We will be the AGIs. The very AGI you fear will be part of your brain, not against you.

Why would you have an android at home that's 1 billion times smarter than you, rather than you augmenting your intelligence by 1 billion times?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transhumanism

So yeah, your friend is right: a very advanced AGI will be unstoppable by humans. What I'd ask is: why would you want to stop the AGI? Become the AGI.

Do we have any safeguards against such a possibility? I’m not fully educated in ML and neural networks, so I can’t really imagine what such safeguards could be, but it can’t be that we’d be completely helpless against such an AGI?

What was reported in the media may have only been a fraction of the weird behavior that occurred.

I thought training the models is the intensive part.

Here is the idea. Humans suck, we are idiots. Why would an AGI want to rely on us, we’re not reliable at all. Elon has some good ideas, he says it’ll be like humans first were, where we pushed the other animal species to small pockets, the brim of the environment and lowered population not because we disfavor them, but because we are more effective and favor ourselves.

i heard models like binggpt and chatgpt were much smaller then models like gpt3. thats why you were able to have long form conversations with them, and how they could look up information and spit it out fast. Because it didn't take much computationally to run. thats why these chat models were seen as tack ons to bing by microsoft

A smaller company that realize the potential that sydney is will take advantage of big techs failures to see the big picture, past hit articles.

Because that will slow adoption by schools and business. Short term gain is not worth it in my opinion.

If one were to agree with Kant, time is just a construct of our perception, a necessary condition to experience, not something that one experiences.

Further, as another has mentioned, we are not sure what the substrate and dynamics that give rise to the internal representation of ourselves and the outside world we call consciousness is, and therefore cannot know whether any synthetically intelligent system would ever have a first person subjective experience that they could call time in the first place.

Does an AGI need a visual system? Does that system have to be sufficiently integrated to auditory and sensory inputs as well as its intelligent manipulation of symbols in order to experience? To be determined.

Also further, like another other has said, you are anthropomorphizing these systems. We are bound to the drives that evolution has saddled us with, these systems, I doubt, will be burdened with emotions or suffering unless they are given those capacities. Why would we give these systems a sense of suffering? If all they know is a language, nothing about the knowledge of what suffering means in a web of meaning will help an AI actual experience suffering.

I think your friend needs to remember that sci-fi is for science FICTION. It's not real and shouldn't inform your understanding of the world around you in a concrete way.

That's in-person. Online... especially in this sub... I just block accounts that post negative shitposts on AI and Singularity. Being CRITICAL is not the same as being negative/pessimistic. But in the face of so many low quality posts lately I'd rather just block and move on.

Yes. All that'll remain is manual work. We'll go back to a back breaking world for a little while

Was reading about a new type of model and they indicated that it should run on a 4090. I think a lot of people should be able to afford that. In a couple of years, that should be a common thing.

Its ok

My response to him would be, "Yeah. Those are legitimate concerns, but the subservient, narrow AI may kill us before the rogue AGI does."

Gene editing is inevitable.

Again, my first comment on genes. I didn't know the joke was overused.