Recent comments in /f/singularity

KidKilobyte t1_j969awq wrote

Once you said divine spark, the rest can be ignored. Give me a test for "Divine Spark" and maybe we can talk. You make a lot of assertions, none of which I agree with. Show me proof of what you are saying. I'm sure in your heart what you say all feels true, but this is because you are starting from an axiom that there is some specialness to having a soul, though you fail to articulate exactly what that specialness is other than to say machines lack it.

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overturf600 t1_j968jws wrote

Mine are probably boring, but.

1- I’m spending most of my time trying to think through the short and mid term impact AI will have on businesses and white collar jobs. I’m teaching an exec staff in a few weeks and training up chat GPT to demo some of its capabilities. Curious to see their reactions when they think about how to apply it to their own business.

2- sounds weird but im looking forward to whatever event/accident/disaster that will wake up governments towards regulating AI. We are about to embark on a very stupid time otherwise.

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TFenrir t1_j96815w wrote

Reply to comment by lehcarfugu in What’s up with DeepMind? by BobbyWOWO

Ah I get you. Yeah, here's the complicated thing though - Google generally provides the most valuable AI research every year, especially if you include DeepMind.

https://thundermark.medium.com/ai-research-rankings-2022-sputnik-moment-for-china-64b693386a4

If suddenly they decide that it's more important to be... Let's say cautious, about what papers they release, what impact is that going to have? Are other companies going to step up and provide more research, or are they all going to be more cautious about sharing their findings?

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Representative_Pop_8 t1_j967lff wrote

But that is not what consciousness is. consciousness is not about responding to surroundings , a toilet knows when it is full of water but that doesn't make it conscious.

Consciousness is being able to subjectively feel things in its inside, like we do, the difference between being awake vs when asleep and we dont feel anything.

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Redditing-Dutchman t1_j966dak wrote

In the beginning of this year Deepmind laid off a big part of it's staff (just like many tech companies).The Deepmind research facility in Edmonton was even closed completely.

Could be that progress is actually slower or even halted because of this, or they kept the basic team and fired people like the blog writer for example.

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NoSweet8631 t1_j96493q wrote

I do support this technology and I'm really excited for all of these advancements that have been happening recently; especially with AI...But, if you seriously believe that nobody will ever use a brain device to try to control someone else or steal some data, (whether is a hacker or a big corporation) then you are naïve as hell. If that's not the case and I misunderstood something about what you said, then I apologize just like you said.

As for whether we should trust Microsoft or not; only time will tell.

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lehcarfugu t1_j9639ur wrote

Reply to comment by TFenrir in What’s up with DeepMind? by BobbyWOWO

Well it appears that previous inventions they open sourced are going to hurt their bottom line. The transformer came from Google, and most of what you are seeing now stems from Google

It might be in their best interest to stop open sourcing stuff that will only benefit their competition

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BobbyWOWO OP t1_j96119o wrote

Well I would argue that most companies take the work of others to build products. Like Apple didn’t invent hard drives, monitors, CPUs and operating systems, they just implemented them in an innovative way. DeepMind at its core is a research company… they had to expect that others would use their science to build products

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ThirstforSin t1_j960vzs wrote

Actually DARPA is developing Autonomous Drone Swarms that are powered by artificial intelligence, each drone acts as a node in a network that all carry out their own tasks while acting as a collective grouping, in terms of ,reconnaissance and surveillance and attack capabilities. So now imagine AGI with this. It remind me something out of call of duty infinite warfare and drone swarms https://youtu.be/W34NPbGkLGI

https://youtu.be/RqaRtu6R4SY

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paulyivgotsomething t1_j960jno wrote

Open Ai is reading their papers then implementing and distributing the resulting models. I think they were unhappy about that and stopped sharing. Oh yeah and Open AI is getting rich of the work of others and destroying the parent company that paid for the research. So i don't think you will be seeing anything for a while.

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TFenrir t1_j960ilw wrote

Reply to comment by GoldenRain in What’s up with DeepMind? by BobbyWOWO

This is probably likely, and not just for this reason. Demis Hassabis himself said recently in a time magazine article that he thinks that OpenAI (without naming them) don't contribute to the science, but take a lot from the science out there - which they use to push AI out into the world faster than he would like people to. So they probably are going to not share as much going forward.

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AllEndsAreAnds t1_j95zf8o wrote

I think the extent to which you’re being reductive here reduces human reasoning to some kind of blind interpolation.

Both brains and LLM’s use nodes to store information, patterns, and correlations as states, which we call upon and modify as we experience new situations. This is largely how we acquire skills, define ourselves, reason, forecast future expectations, etc. Yet what stops me from saying “yeah, but you’re just interpolating from your enormous corpus of sensory data”? Of course we are - that’s largely what learning is.

I can’t help but think that if I was an objective observer to humans and LLM’s, and therefore didn’t have human biases, that I would conclude that both systems are intelligent and reason in analogous ways.

But ultimately, I get nervous seeing discussion go this long without direct reference to the actual model architecture, which I haven’t seen done but which I’m sure would be illuminating.

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GoldenRain t1_j95z7vc wrote

I think Google realized that funding all research and then making it available to OpenAI for free, while they don't return the favor isn't a viable strategy.

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