Recent comments in /f/singularity

PanzerKommander t1_j96r51k wrote

I'm working with some fellow realtors about using AI for managing calls, scheduling, advertising, and data mining.

I'm also looking forward to when AI is advanced enough I can say 'Hey, Sydney, would you make me a program that can do X for me?' and have the code ready to roll. Or have it hooked up my CNC machine and say 'Sydney, would you mill me Y component for my Z device?'

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hydraofwar t1_j96r06y wrote

Reply to comment by [deleted] in What’s up with DeepMind? by BobbyWOWO

At the end of the day, either keeping AI for yourself or sharing it with the people is dangerous either way. But it's probably less dangerous to give access to the people than to keep it for the elite.

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Lawjarp2 t1_j96qtad wrote

You don't have to copy and know every atom before you agree something is like something else. That's just a bad faith argument. Don't look at just the differences look at the similarities, look at how it's able to get so far with such a basic design.

It's like the god of the gaps argument. People who constantly point out that we don't know this hence god, then if you do explain away the phenomenon it's something else. In that way their god is just the gap in our knowledge and is forever shrinking.

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Vehks t1_j96poa0 wrote

>Take your crazy "MSFT will try to mind control us" nonsense to a different sub.

mind control?

Lay off the scifi broski, there are much more grounded concerns that are perfectly legitimate that you seem to be glossing over, like general safety, for instance.

What if this tech goes terribly wrong once implanted? What if the brain rejects it or some kind of dangerous complications arise? What if potentially fatal consequences arise later down the road that aren't immediately apparent? Will these corporations take responsibility? Or the proper precautions?

What if these things work wonderfully and people become dependent on them, but for one reason or another these companies no longer find them profitable, can we trust they won't simply pull the plug/disable these implants at will? What happens if the implants become buggy and malfunction over time, but have been discontinued by the company and thus no longer serviced? will they take that into account?

I'm slamming that F key for doubt.

I could go on all day.

A lot of these corporations are not exactly all that concerned with public health/safety when profit is on the line and have proven to be less than trustworthy in general, putting things politely, so the last thing I would want to do is trust them with any potential scenarios like the above; especially when they have a habit of not reporting the whole facts or using their vast wealth to sweep these problems under the rug.

Put it another way - accountability is not their strong suit is what I'm driving at.

TLDR: poking around in a person's gray matter is a big freaking deal.

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Vehks t1_j96o31k wrote

>Bunch of paranoid conspiracy theorists in this sub

hyperbole or not, I don't think i'm comfortable by anything made/backed by Bezos or Gates poking around inside my head...

Especially Bezos, given his more recent track record. If that makes me a conspiracy theorist, then fuck it toss me a roll of tinfoil, better yet roll in a whole pallet of that shit.

Actually I don't much trust any billionaire, really. So forgive me if I'm not first in line to install any data ports into my noggin just yet.

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TFenrir t1_j96l9m3 wrote

Reply to comment by blueSGL in What’s up with DeepMind? by BobbyWOWO

Yeah I think this is already playing out to some degree, with some attrition from Google Brain to OpenAI.

I don't know how much is just... Normal poaching and attrition, and how much is related to different ideologies, but I think Google will have to pivot significantly to prevent something more substantial happening to their greatest asset.

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blueSGL t1_j96kgc1 wrote

Reply to comment by TFenrir in What’s up with DeepMind? by BobbyWOWO

It's all fine and good being a benevolent company that decides it's going to fund (but not release) research.

Are the people actually developing this researches going to be happy grinding away at problems at a company and not have anything they've created shared?

and see another research institute gain kudos for something they'd already created 6months to a year prior but it's locked in the google vault?

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MrEloi t1_j96kdix wrote

They are in a deep sulk about OpenAI getting all the kudos and publicity.

On top of that, they are getting beaten up by Alphabet to produce something which looks good in the media.

Their main task recently has been to throw mud at OpenAI and ChatGPT.
I suppose they want to slow them down with "concerns about safety" whilst Google tries to duct tape its AI systems into a working chat system.

OpenAI's very successful launch of ChatGPT seems to have upset quite a lot of others in the AI sector .. especially those who are usually in the media spotlight.

All that said, it now seems that OpenAI have succumbed to external pressures and have been brought back into line. They have delayed the release of GPT-4 "on safety grounds".

They are also now suggesting that AI systems, hardware, training, models etc should be regulated .. again for "safety".

Being a cynic, I think that OpenAI, Google (and the US government?) have done a deal. They will retain control of the AI platforms, thus becoming a duopoly.

Startups etc will be encouraged - but will of course have to source their AI power from the big boys.

Open Source etc AI systems will be blocked .. due to "safety issues".

High power AI GPUs will only be available to the big boys.

Getty Images, Shutterstock and the like will do licensing deals with the duopoly .. but Open Source systems will be sued for Copyright infringement.

The US government will be happy with all this : they can control the AI systems if required.

Anyway, that's the way I see things turning out.

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MrEloi t1_j96hwmq wrote

Take a look at Stephen Wolframs recent article: https://writings.stephenwolfram.com/2023/02/what-is-chatgpt-doing-and-why-does-it-work/

It's a long, technical read .. but well worth the effort.

It's clear that ChatGPT is something more than just a calculator or look-up table of word probabilities.

Maybe not sentience, but certainly something brain-like is going on.

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TFenrir t1_j96hi1f wrote

Reply to comment by [deleted] in What’s up with DeepMind? by BobbyWOWO

I generally appreciate what you are saying, and I feel more or less the same way, in the sense that I think that these models should be in our hands sooner, rather than later, so that we can give appropriate large scale feedback... But I also think the reasoning to hold back is more complicated. I get the impression that fear of bad results is a big part of the anxiety people like Demis feel.

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Shamwowz21 t1_j96he4r wrote

That’s a very interesting way to play a game! I hope you get to play in full dive soon and experience a better game than anyone with total vision has ever played before- and, of course the cherry on top would be to truly correct your sight and you can see in every type of way people today cannot, with their silly un-upgraded sight. Take care :)

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MysteryInc152 t1_j96eaav wrote

Your argument and position is weird and that meme is very cringe. You're not a genius for being idiotically reductive.

The problem here is the same as everyone else who takes this idiotic stance. We have definitions for reasoning and understanding that you decide to construe for your ill defined and vague assertions.

You think it's not reasoning ? Cool. Then rigorously define your meaning of reasoning and design tests to comprehensively evaluate it and people on. If you can't do this then you really have no business speaking on whether a language model can reason and understand or not.

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bass6c t1_j96dhu0 wrote

Most of the technologies being used by openai are either from Google or from Deepmind. The transformer and instructed fine tuning,… are from Google brain. OpenAI recent success comes at a heavy cost for the ai community. Companies such as Google, Meta and Amazon will most likely stop publishing influential papers.

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