Recent comments in /f/singularity

NoidoDev t1_j98shkl wrote

I follow the definition that consciousness is either described by

- AST (attention scheme theory), so a smaller part of a bigger system which receives high level information, but not the details. It's controlling the direction of the system when necessary, but not down to every detail, only on a high level. Many things might run on "auto-pilot" and the details be handled by specialized systems.

- Or from what I gathered so far about the bicameral mind theory, emphasizing the distinction between dreaming and reasoning.

Either way, explicit reasoning and understanding of concepts is crucial. The other problem is the myth of consciousness, like it would mean anything beyond that. That AI would do something then, or that it should get rights. No thanks. Get rid of your obsession with it, it only matters when it matters.

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TampaBai t1_j98pfta wrote

Reply to comment by BobbyWOWO in What’s up with DeepMind? by BobbyWOWO

Yes, this fiasco reminds me of Steve Jobs' stealing the intellectual property of the GUI from Xerox. They (Xerox) were sitting on perfectly implementable technology, but didn't seem to think there was any need for ordinary consumers to use such an interface. Jobs evidently never signed any kind of confidentiality agreement as Xerox assumed his intentions for touring the facility were for educational proposes. Soon thereafter, Jobs pilfered Xerox's technology -- and the rest is history, as we all are accustomed to using what became the "mouse". I hope there are others who, like Jobs, will do what it takes to get this tech into all of our hands as soon as possible.

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EasternBeyond t1_j98p2rv wrote

Google doesn't want to cannabalize its own bussiness, which is search advertising. They probably realized early on that LLM models will compete with their main profit generator, so they decided to not allocate a significant amount of capital into making it a publically available product.

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the-powl t1_j98o27u wrote

Well first you said altering the work of someone after his dead is morally corrupt. Then you said it's okay if the one who holds the rights gives you permission. The first point is general enough that it contradicts the second though.

Anyway it's totally fine to reuse someones work. Above all for personal use.

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spacedrace t1_j98nlps wrote

You are approaching consciousness through logic, there is a deeper sense in which it can be understood. But you have to let go of drilled in mental models of sense making. It is something that exists outside yourself and wholly within your self. It's highly paradoxical and impossible to describe objectively. You are scratching the surface of an insanely deep question that is knowable and unknownable. Take your time, live your life, engage with other living beings directly. It's not something that you can describe in language, or with art or action but all at the same time you can. Take a deep breath and sit with it as long as you can, then do it again and again and again. A few years from now you will understand completely and not at all.

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Superschlenz t1_j98leen wrote

>It seems unlikely that DeepMind is behind OAI from a science perspective

So it seems unlikely that Alphabet is not just pouring another $10B into DeepMind as Microsoft did with OpenAI?

Hahaha, just kidding. The people at DeepMind are so much more intelligent than the people at OpenAI, they can run all the new models perfectly inside their heads and don't need massive compute to verify and fix their buggy ideas (or hire a load of paid workers for RLHF).

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