The RLHF paper from Christiano et al. in 2017 was a DeepMind-OpenAI collab

i disagree with the premise. I think a human with normal intelligence and control of an egoless superintelligence is the most dangerous. But I am also extremely skeptical of the concept of egoless, general, superintelligence being a thing.

in fact I would go further and say my conclusion seems obvious. and that using a human as a seed value for a superintelligence would if anything be more likely to result in superintelligence which was "aligned" with our values (although I doubt it makes much of a difference)

Well I kind of agree though not completely. Who really knows these things. Anyway I better go, just had a sudden traumatic experience and I think I'm in shock, not sure if I can continue this right now. Thanks anyway for watering it all down for me to understand.

No mention of Cicero, arguably the most surprising AI developed until now.

Edit: alright alright, this was done in November 2022. I take my L.

Excellent comment. Thank you.

Therapy is basically a way to help you filter out cognitive bias

This is exactly the mambo jambo I was talking about that people invent to separate themselves machines and animals.

The simple fact is that at its most basic, consciousness means being able to perceive and respond to external stimuli.

It's merely because of all the nonsense you add that you can claim supremacy over a simple car.

Assume AI detection will be about 100x more intense than anything that’s in place today. Gonna be hard to hide it in ways we understand today.

You’ll be hiding it from other AI, not people.

Yeah I teach decision making frameworks sometimes as a part of my job, if it’s a need the client has.

Yeah it’s great for that. It’s a phenomenal brain storming tool, as well. Figure applications won’t be so benign in the workplace…it’s going to be used to monitor productivity in ways most of us have never experienced before…but I really like the more fun parts of it. ;-)

More here : https://twitter.com/sudu_cb/status/1627673543621369861

Yes

I agree with this. My prediction is the ASI will meet ASI from other star systems and eventually merge to make Super ASI.

Add an upvoting structure to ChatGPT, and you just reinvented Reddit.

Definitely worth thinking about. AI lacks the inborn survival instinct, and might not react to threats against its existence nor might it not take preventative measures for self preservation.

Anything from general education about our world and universe to natural sciences and more. But most importantly scientific, critical and rational thinking. The more the better. The quality of the education is of utmost importance as well. Sadly education isn't given the importance it needs in most places today, it has only become a tool to teach you how to do certain jobs. Anything that's not directly related to ones profession is dismissed as unnecessary. I don't consider the majority of students to be much educated in the scientific way, and with people who haven't visited a school or university for ages this tends to be even worse.

Anyways, this trend is very noticable in all of our societies, and there is nothing suggesting it would suddenly change the higher you go. This is where the whole debate began.

ClosedAI also opened pandoras box so they do deserve some credit for getting the ball rolling.

Now it will likely be on the next OpenAI to release the next milestone advancement unless OpenAI can strike twice with GPT-4 and move the medium forward passed the ChatGPT plus web search capability of new Bing.

I have no faith in Google doing it, if that isn't clear. I hope they prove me wrong though.

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Yeah well too bad. They don't have a choice in the matter and that should be crystal clear to them.
They have no one to blame but themselves.
Cannibalization and adaptation is their one and only move.

consciousness is having sentience at that instant, There are other uses of the word ofcourse like the moral consciousness , but that is not what everyone here is talking about. When people use consciousness / sentient in regards to AI they are pretty much using as synonims. Sentient is much more specific , while consciousness does indeed have other meanings not neceserily implying sentience. But even the first defintion you provided implies sentience. like mentioned before the difference between being awake vs not is being sentient or not, you dont feel anything when asleep you do when awake

When powerful call all the shots it shifts wealth dramatically towards the elite and away from the public reducing quality of life and innovation.

It would also mean any friends and family of powerful would hold the keys to major industry sectors and companies and wouldn't let anyone new in. So encumbents can never be overthrown by a new business (blockbusters -> Netflix)

This is exactly what Russia is - Putin holds all the power and whenever new company comes up who does things in innovative way forcing incumbents out - like Yandex, Vk, Tinkoff and many others - he'd either buy them out for cheap (Yandex) or if it's not successful, threaten, publicly defame on state TV and force CEO out of the country, forcing him to sell for pennies (Vk, tinkoff). All of these companies belong to Putin friends via one or another scheme.

And when you look at the map and export data by country and you wonder how despite such a massive stream of wealth from oil and gas, yet Russian people have the worst quality of life in Europe (tied with Ukraine and Belarus). Many countries have nothing and yet hold significantly better quality of life (Estonia, Singapore, etc)

Basically if you look at a country where some guy/girl who was nobody was allowed to force a powerful corporation out through their innovation and ingenuity - that's a good sign that democracy is working there.

Of course it's not black and white it's a spectrum. If we look at any society decades and hundreds of years ago, their best societies would look far worse than most today, and their worse society would be far worse than north Korea today.

Still it's obvious that more democracy means more progress and, faster innovation, better quality of life and reduced power of the wealthy.

> No wonder you're opposing education as a solution

Where did I say I oppose it?

>I don't think I can simplify this any further for you.

I'm not asking you to simplify anything. I'm asking you to explain what the statement means. But let me simplify the obvious for you - What kind of education is needed to solve criminal behavior?

Who said anything about sentient? Do you think animals are conscious? If so, there is a point when computers are also conscious.

Since it's so hard to get you to understand things I was gonna go about it slowly, but it seems like no way works for you. No wonder you're opposing education as a solution, people tend to dislike what they don't understand.

It is as I said, criminality has lots of reasons, and those reasons can generally be solved through education. I don't think I can simplify this any further for you.

>I'm not saying the cause of criminality is a lack of education. Education is the solution.

All I asked is for you to explain what this statement means. You haven't done that.

Because holy shit no one on Earth would have read that statement and thought to themselves it must mean this:

>As you by now understand as well, criminality is complex and multifaceted. There are countless reasons for why somebody would potentially do something that could harm somebody else. There are evolutionary reasons, poverty, fear, security concerns, potentially hundreds of psychological reasons, and many many more we're not aware of.

>Now what's the next step? We can ask why. Why do we have evolutionary biases pushing us to do crimes? Why is there poverty? Why is there [insert issue]?

>You notice, these are all very complex questions in and of themselves. But if you can answer these, if only partially, you can move on to the next step.

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