Recent comments in /f/singularity

Cr4zko t1_j9p3sop wrote

Yudkowsky was it. If you go on less er... savory parts of the internet (read as Kiwi Farms/Encyclopedia Dramatica or any other forum ran by an edgy 15 year old on his mother's basement which I might not know of) and surprisingly you'll get an eye-opening biography on the guy from the late 90s from today. Dude's basically a cult leader. Just ignore all of the politics and the racism and you'll get the picture.

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Gotisdabest t1_j9p3p2k wrote

So now you're deflecting and trying to avoid responding on points by relying on a supposed degree as a crutch.

>You're making it harder for companies to exist by raising taxes and it increase their risks. The field (robotics and AI) will already be extremely difficult to succeed in but profits = bad to you.

So now what suddenly was a barrier to entry makes established players harder to exist? Also do point out exactly where this turned from industry in general to just the ai and robotics industry? Also it's difficult to succeed but weakening established players is bad... some real backwards logic right here. The fun part about taxing profits is that it does not add risks to anything except your bottom line.

For someone with a master's degree in economics, you cited an investipedia article which didn't even corroborate your claims. You also seemingly have trouble understanding what Trickle Down economics is. Are you sure the university didn't just scam you?

I assume you concede the point on budget since you apparently cannot reply to it at all, even with a weak deflection.

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jamesj OP t1_j9p3m4l wrote

>Then at the part where they offer a skewed definition of Intelligence, "First, a few definitions. Intelligence, as defined in this article, is the ability to compress data describing past events, in order to predict future outcomes...". This is not correct. Why not just use some agreed-upon definition? Like "The ability to acquire and apply knowledge and skills."
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>I'm just stopping there. Calling BS.

This definition of intelligence comes from Juergen Schmidhuber, who's team was instrumental in the development of LSTMs and advances in deep learning in the 90s.

I recommend reading the paper, it is a very useful view of what the core of intelligence really is. https://arxiv.org/pdf/0812.4360.pdf

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RiotNrrd2001 t1_j9p3ds6 wrote

The world just got a couple of free interns. They know a lot, but they're inexperienced, kind of dumb in some ways, and they make glaring errors. On the other hand, it's always easier to edit than it is to compose, so having some rough-draft writing fools spit out a bunch of nicely worded and formatted stuff at you, half of which is wrong, is actually just fine for a lot of things. It doesn't save you 100% of your work time, but it sure cuts it down. Jobs that used to involve direct creation will now be more exercises in proofreading and editing.

That, by itself, is enough to upend things. Even if we don't get AGI. Even if ChatGPT and Bing get no more accurate than they are right now. Just the tools we now have, we've only had widely available for a very short time, and people are still working out what they can do. The pebble's been dropped into the pond, but many ripples are only now starting to become visible (e.g., Amazon is just now reporting seeing a huge influx of ChatGPT-authored content, etc.)

The real AGI fun is down the road. But that doesn't mean some fun isn't still starting.

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TFenrir t1_j9p35nk wrote

I generally agree, but sometimes I feel like there are very interesting conversations around improved functionality - I never share any of these myself, but if I saw one I would be interested. Here are a few examples from one particular person on Twitter who likes to put Bing through the ringer:

https://twitter.com/emollick/status/1628605530963845123?t=V63nQ-OLGRhUbaeNTA5hlA&s=19

https://twitter.com/emollick/status/1626084142239649792?t=RLI3NAv6CqjahpbZ3ZMy9g&s=19

There are more from that user that are interesting, and some things that are interesting is just how much more sophisticated Bing is at lying/hallucinating.

In general, I don't think that these tweets are thread worthy, but for example there are expected Bing updates today that might improve quality of updates, or add more options, or maybe in the near future updates that give Bing access to more tools (ala Toolformer), so I wouldn't want a hard and fast "don't share any chatbot outputs" rules.

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Nanaki_TV t1_j9p2u8x wrote

>I know this can be quite hard for you

Jesus Christ your hubris man... You could be wrong and you know that right? I know I could be wrong. But I have a masters degree in economics and... what you're saying isn't even remotely true! There's no data. There's not logical reasoning behind it. You're making it harder for companies to exist by raising taxes and it increase their risks. The field (robotics and AI) will already be extremely difficult to succeed in but profits = bad to you.

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Coderules t1_j9p2tmk wrote

I first stopped reading after just the first sentence. The part "The rise of transformer-based architectures, such as..." is just click-bait.

But I re-opened and continued.

Then at the part where they offer a skewed definition of Intelligence, "First, a few definitions. Intelligence, as defined in this article, is the ability to compress data describing past events, in order to predict future outcomes...". This is not correct. Why not just use some agreed-upon definition? Like "The ability to acquire and apply knowledge and skills."

I'm just stopping there. Calling BS.

We have already seen too many articles where people imply AI will bring about loss jobs sending people into panic. Then on the other side we have this type of BS that causes fear and more panic.

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Ambiwlans t1_j9p21xt wrote

Or just tax income... that money leaves the corporation at some point.

The problem in the US is that income tax isn't progressive enough at the high end.

People making a billion a year should be taxed 99%. It isn't like making >10mil a year take home would be some sort of tragedy. You could still buy a yacht, just not one big enough to have a helipad AND a dock for smaller speed boats.

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Darustc4 t1_j9p21rt wrote

IMO it is the best thing to do. Promote fear of AI so that the people realize it is dangerous and we buy some time to get alignment work in.
I am an AI safety researcher and let me tell you, it's not looking great: AI is getting stupidly powerful incredibly quick and we are nowhere close to getting them to be safe/aligned.

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a4mula t1_j9p1zq6 wrote

As much as I have a certain respect for Mr. Sanders.

He's not the mind that should be guiding policy. He's a dinosaur and these are the economic thoughts of the way systems did work.

That's not how they're going to continue to work.

The idea of taxation isn't one that will move forward in this new economy. No more than the ideas of supply and demand do with digital content that isn't based on renewable resources.

A new framework needs to be enacted. One in which the economic policies of supply and demand and all of the functions of that are replaced.

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Tall-Junket5151 t1_j9p1w6u wrote

Same with AI art, I enjoy AI art but there are special subs for it. Typing in “singularity” into Stable Diffusion or Midjourney and posting the generic results here is not interesting content. It’s low effort and just reduces the quality of the sub.

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