Recent comments in /f/singularity

petermobeter t1_j9setmv wrote

i understand that, i get it, youre sayin the 2 scenarios i proposed are the same thing because If it THINKS it’s me, it IS me

but……. im just really worried that my stream of consiousness is gonna end permanently when i die, regardless of future technology enabling full-brain emulation of ancestors.

will i wake up after i die, or will “i” wake up after i die? please please please tell me it’s the former 🥺 or that the latter includes the former!

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Daealis t1_j9sem7d wrote

People, as a general rule, are idiots. Ask anyone who's met me!

But on a serious note, I don't think polling works. Polling requires less engagement than typing out a comment, so people that only casually stroll by to read topics and chuckle at memes, but never contribute otherwise, will vote on a poll.

You're not getting an accurate picture from people who engage with content.

AI generated chatter seems like meme content at this point. When we reach a point where the AI is conscious rather than just an overcomplicated predetermined logic tree, then it feels to me like we should return to the discussion with a different tone.

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BuildingCastlesInAir t1_j9sed9h wrote

Sorry, no, because the way you move will identify you and everything you do will be tied to that identity. That's what the article is saying. So even if you're anonymous since the beginning, companies can tie that to "Person A" and everything you do will be under this name, "Person A". It doesn't matter if you never share anything about yourself in real life because they will eventually get enough data on "Person A" that they'll know what you like and what you'll spend money on so you will be targeted with ads and be compelled to spend more of your money on whatever it is that you like. If you really want to be anonymous, you'd have to have some sort of interface that moves for you in a randomized different way each time. And you wouldn't be able to play video games with thsi interface with any skill because your movements wouldn't be tied to your real life movements. The only way to escape is to not log on.

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Proof_Deer8426 t1_j9sct50 wrote

A UBI is not a socialist policy. It makes no change to the power structure. That’s why it’s often supported by right wing as well as supposedly left wing thinkers. With UBI power remains in the hands of the bourgeoisie, that is to say the class of ownership. The income will go straight into various rentier schemes, there will be no change to material or economic deprivation, and the people will have neither a better living standard nor more power than they had before it’s introduction. In other words, it’s a con, presented in a way that appeals to leftists who have only a superficial understanding of how power, economics and ideology really functions.

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mybadcode t1_j9scsvv wrote

The best outcome is AGI helping us figure out how to procure unlimited clean energy. Everything after that just falls into place. All of a sudden engineering stronger materials (nanotubes) becomes more probable, desalinating water would then be trivial, mining asteroids is probable. Essentially thousands of tech trees open up to us

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nklarow t1_j9sc83a wrote

It's not censoring to have an overwhelming opinion on something. You need to understand what censoring is, because this is not it.

And yes, I will still tell you to calm the fuck down. Your argument is completely lost and drowned out by your anger. If anyone even cared what you had to say, you can't articulate for shit so you sound like a raving lunatic.

There are ways to get your point across and debate without sounding like a child, something that seems lost on you.

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Jawwwed t1_j9sbkue wrote

That’s a good question I hadn’t considered. I suppose it would be the scientific and artistic renaissance to come in its wake. It would be good to see the global human standard for living increase as well. But I think past all of that, I would just be satisfied that we made AGI simply for the fact that we made it.

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redroverdestroys t1_j9sbftm wrote

Reply to comment by nklarow in Seriously people, please stop by Bakagami-

yall are very clearly gas lighting. You want to censor shit and tell people to "relax" after. And I am the unhinged one? I'm not the one crying about censoring content on here, that's you guys.

like the fuck is wrong with you people? Just be good people.

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[deleted] OP t1_j9sapgr wrote

Here is a thought experiment for you. Imagine at age 5 you were frozen and then your mind was scanned and your body destroyed. Now imagine that at this time someone created an entity that was exactly the same as you are now (memories and everything). Now ask yourself, is this objectively any different from your current existence?

You in this very moment are literally a "clone" that thinks it's the same being that existed many years ago. How you achieved this belief of continuity is completely immaterial from the perspective of your brain as the only way it can consciously experience this is through memory.

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SgathTriallair t1_j9s9rns wrote

It's funny how many people made fun of that Google engineer but aren't laughing now.

I don't think we can definitively say that we've entered the age of sentient AIs but we can no longer definitively say that we haven't.

It's really exciting.

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wfF1K9YoHB t1_j9s9qoi wrote

I personally afraid of not having to work. Right now most people studying and improving themselves just to find a good job. Plus work helps forgetting of thoughts that endanger mental health. So when the time when we won't need to work comes, I won't be surprised if we encounter mass degradation, alcoholism and suicide. If we won't be erased by AGI before that point of course.

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