Great! Check dm

Humans are trained on a fraction of the data that LLMs are. That actually does matter, because it begs the question: what are LLMs missing?

It doesn’t inherently mean that you can’t get a very powerful system with the current paradigm, but it does mean that you may be missing a better way of doing things.

We use prediction to test understanding. What is so hard to understand about that?

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Sure ! But keep in mind that it going to be deep stuff

Great! Let me do you the details

Remember, you're judging this based on people who are dieing in their 80s today, think about what life was like 60 years ago when they were in their 20s, open coal fires, smoking and passive smoking, little to no understanding of health and fitness (general population), little to no health and safety at work regulations, little to no enforcement of FDA regulations, little to no understanding of the effects of alcohol, obesity etc. Not to mention the effect of caloric restriction, intermittent fasting, Metformin, yamanaka factors, resveratrol, these will have a compounding effect to the point I believe anyone born 1980s+ will probably have an average life span closer to 100 than 80. That's assuming no further medical advancements between now and then.

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Growth at all cost is what I said is the problem, once shareholders get involved that is all a company can do, I didnt say growth. just to be clear. I agree with everything else you said.

Can I please join as well? I’m a hobbyist as well

Any industry truce is a joke. There's no power behind it unless people who inevitably break the truce are thrown into jail for a very long time. The actual beneficiaries, not the scapegoats.

Elon Musk is a glorified salesman who was in the right place at the right time when tech took off, and having oligarch blood in his veins helped him be there.

Now he's a founder because he bought the title of founder.

I think people often underestimate the capabilities of AI.

But they also often overestimate the capabilities of physics.

Some things will just be impossible and not be allowed within the laws of physics no matter what. Can't say exactly what those things will be but I'll put my hat in the ring to say it will be a number of the things they hypothesize AI to be capable of doing.

AI is already too far advanced, the letter won't stop anything. ChatGPT level models have been adapted to run on consumer grade hardware. Even in the US, it is now almost impossible to block its growth.

interested

Hey plz send the link

Was not expecting to agree with Yann LeCun about this

Yes if you take it at face value. But they made it so obviously fake that not even the creators of the paper themselves could be stupid enough to believe it would work, so there must have been an ulterior motive to publishing it.

Growth is necessary to keep up with growing demands but concentration is not - we've created a (present day) system where humanity is excellent at growth but terrible at extending the benefits of growth to the common person.

What does being upper 1% in America get you today? Single income homeowner status, what finishing high school and talking to the manager got you in the 1960s. My grandparents' houses were in Southern California a stone's throw from the beach.

Year 2000: internet petition to stop George W. Bush from becoming president.

Year 2023: open letter against the global oligarchic battlefield to see who will become a demigod first.

I'm curious about this. Will we be able to extend health span before we will be able to repair age related damage and therefore reach LEV?

Most of the stuff I've seen that doesn't genuinely repair age related damage doesn't really do much if anything to extend human lifespan. For instance even if we cure all cancer, life expectancy would only increase by about 2-3 years due to other causes of death like dementia, heart disease, strokes, etc... (Obviously that's worth it, but it's not nearly the same utopia society as some think it could be)

The only thing I've seen that genuinely adds years to human health is reducing stress, having friendships, exercising, eating healthy, avoiding pollution, and making consistent good choices to reduce accidental risk (seat belts, bike helmets, etc...). The standard being healthy stuff.

To really move the needle a lot it seems to me that we need to be able to heal age related damage pretty much everywhere. I believe we are getting to that point within an exponential curve, but it will still likely require synthetic biology delivery systems and a great understanding of our genetics (understanding what Yamanaka factors are truly doing) and much more (many things that each need substantial break throughs).

I believe AI and automation will help a lot with accelerating scientific discovery on this path and we may be shocked by what happens within the next 10 to 20 years.

I personally don't believe any of us can predict further out than 10 years and even anything beyond 3 to 5 is a pretty massive stretch.

China would get 6 months to take their hacked version of GPT and get it to the next level before anyone else.

Try 30, tops.

LLMs produce problem solving intelligence.

They help programmers produce new software, help writers produce new books, help doctors and researchers produce new medicine and research, help game companies produce better open world games.

My wife is literally using chatgpt4 to write completely new software for her work. This software is a PRODUCT that didn't exist before! Software makes money. It can be bought and sold. It's just one example of a product produced with gpt4, there are thousands of these all over in every industry!

It's an intelligence explosion.

I think that you deeply misunderstand potential of LLMs and understimate the amount of jobs unlocked when LLMs get even more intelligent and begin spouting infinite incredible products, ideas, solutions and inventions at humanity which we will have to build.

Entire new industries will be born through an explosion of innovation brought about by LLMs.

its a real petition and most of the important signatures are actually real.

how disappointing. The one good thing about this shitty era and they are trying to ruin it.