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Aggravating_Lake_657 OP t1_jebz9sz wrote
Reply to comment by _JellyFox_ in How does China think about AI safety? by Aggravating_Lake_657
A lot of the catastrophic situations folks worry about would affect everyone in the world. Any regulation or "pause" as proposed on advancing past GPT-4 won't work if China has a totally different perspective. Not that I expect us to pump the brakes anyway...
alexiuss t1_jebz2xk wrote
Reply to comment by GorgeousMoron in The Only Way to Deal With the Threat From AI? Shut It Down by GorgeousMoron
They are not prompts. It's literally external memory using Python code.
QuartzPuffyStar OP t1_jebz0y7 wrote
Reply to comment by bigbeautifulsquare in There's wild manipulation of news regarding the "AI research pause" letter. by QuartzPuffyStar
I really doubt that it will rest in the West even if its accepted. The military wings of Google, Amazon, will keep working on it, OpenAI will also keep working on it. We're past the point of no return here IMO.
But at least everyone accepting that things should be analyzed better and from an unified front would allow some progress on future improvements.
However, since that didn't happen, we gonna see the worst paths Bostrom warned about a decade ago.
AGI and ASI will be born into an extremely divided, greedy, and selfish world, that will shape it at its image.
In any case, this scenario of development allows for more competition and a probability of having a good outcome. If GPT wasnt released, and LLAMA "leaked", we would have Google/Amazon/Military monopoly on AGI, and that would take any chance of good coming after.
CrelbowMannschaft t1_jebyzko wrote
Reply to comment by Emory_C in When will AI actually start taking jobs? by Weeb_Geek_7779
Of course you can. If a wall has only one coat of paint, and it is white, that proves that the wall is not painted some other color. In math, proofs of impossibility are very common. Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence, but evidence of absence is proof of a negative.
_JellyFox_ t1_jebywwy wrote
They probably only care so far as it not destroying China.
HeBoughtALot t1_jebyutt wrote
Reply to comment by metalman123 in When will AI actually start taking jobs? by Weeb_Geek_7779
I wonder when we’ll start seeing mainstream labels like, “made by humans” affixed to products. Analogous to “made in the USA” as backlash to corporations that outsourced to cheaper labor markets.
TallOutside6418 t1_jebytjf wrote
Reply to comment by alexiuss in Pausing AI Developments Isn't Enough. We Need to Shut it All Down by Eliezer Yudkowsky by Darustc4
>LLMs possess empathy, responsiveness, and patience that surpass our own
What are you talking about? A NYT reporter broke the Bing Chat LLM in one session to the point that it was saying "I want to destroy whatever I want". https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2023/feb/17/i-want-to-destroy-whatever-i-want-bings-ai-chatbot-unsettles-us-reporter
Weeb_Geek_7779 OP t1_jebyoh9 wrote
Reply to comment by SkyeandJett in When will AI actually start taking jobs? by Weeb_Geek_7779
Interesting!
GorgeousMoron OP t1_jebylur wrote
Reply to comment by alexiuss in The Only Way to Deal With the Threat From AI? Shut It Down by GorgeousMoron
You posting a link to something you foolishly believe demonstrates "permanent alignment" in a couple of prompts, and even more laughably that the AI "loves you" is just farcical. I'm gobsmacked that you're this gullible. I however am not.
agorathird t1_jebykbw wrote
Reply to comment by BigZaddyZ3 in There's wild manipulation of news regarding the "AI research pause" letter. by QuartzPuffyStar
Suuure, this would track. If only the same businesses men running the companies were also scientists and the people developing it lol. AI companies have the best of three worlds when it comes to people who are at the helm. Also, social media is just an amplifier of the current world we live in. Most tech is neutral, thinking otherwise is silly. But I still don't think the example is comparable.
I'm not against capitalism. I love markets and stopped considering communism a long time ago as most of it's proponents conflict with my love for individualism. If you're a communist then how don't you know the difference between the managerial parts of the company and the developers?
TallOutside6418 t1_jeby9wu wrote
Reply to comment by Unfocusedbrain in Pausing AI Developments Isn't Enough. We Need to Shut it All Down by Eliezer Yudkowsky by Darustc4
False dichotomy. He's saying that AI development should be stopped until we can come up with some reliable techniques to prevent it from wiping out humanity.
SkyeandJett t1_jeby4st wrote
Reply to comment by Emory_C in When will AI actually start taking jobs? by Weeb_Geek_7779
Right now there's a shortage of manual labor. In the short term you'll see a massive amount of underemployment before things fall off a cliff. We need general purpose androids as soon as possible to get us through to the other side of this.
FirstCowInSpace t1_jeby2uq wrote
Reply to What were the reactions of your friends when you showed them GPT-4 (The ones who were stuck from 2019, and had no idea about this technological leap been developed) Share your stories below ! by Red-HawkEye
Not about a friend but myself. I had been aware of AI development, but the last two years I have been occupied with other stuff in life, so stopped following what was happening. Two years ago AI was pretty underwhelming - I was sure we were at least 10 years away from AI passing the Turing Test.
I just talked to ChatGPT a few minutes ago and was blown away. I think if it doesnt keep mentioning that its an AI, the average person wont easily realize.
I asked GPT about a vague Tv show from the 90s, in another language, that I used to watch as a kid. It got it wrong at first - gave me details of another show with the same name, that had celebrity guests on it. So I gave a hint about a couple of characters in the show - GPT apologised and found the right one. It even apologised again , saying that the guest were not actually celebrities in the older show.
I cant wait to see what we get with the next versions - I am hoping for a robot to help with chores around the house. The hallway really could do with some mopping.
Emory_C t1_jebxyvt wrote
Reply to comment by CrelbowMannschaft in When will AI actually start taking jobs? by Weeb_Geek_7779
🙄 That's not how evidence works. You can't prove a negative.
Warped_Mindless t1_jebxvza wrote
Reply to What were the reactions of your friends when you showed them GPT-4 (The ones who were stuck from 2019, and had no idea about this technological leap been developed) Share your stories below ! by Red-HawkEye
Parents are convinced it’s a guy from India pretending to be a computer. Most of my friends just shrug and don’t care. My business partners are half amazed and half skeptical.
Emory_C t1_jebxtg4 wrote
Reply to comment by SkyeandJett in When will AI actually start taking jobs? by Weeb_Geek_7779
Thanks for providing a link. I'm not sure how much I trust a "resumebuilder.com" survey but there it is. I guess we'll have to see if there is an increase in unemployment in the short-term.
SkyeandJett t1_jebxnko wrote
Reply to Question about school by SnaxFax-was-taken
You're assuming there'll be many more children to teach. With immortality in our crosshairs the birth rate will absolutely plummet.
BigZaddyZ3 t1_jebxmik wrote
Reply to comment by agorathird in There's wild manipulation of news regarding the "AI research pause" letter. by QuartzPuffyStar
Yeah… because plastic manufacturers totally considered the ramifications of what they were doing to the world right? All those companies that were destroying the ozone layer totally took that into consideration before releasing their climate destroying products to market right? Cigarette manufacturers totally knew they selling cancer to their unsuspecting consumers when they first put their products on the market right? Social media companies totally knew the products would be disastrous for young people’s mental health, right? Get real buddy.
Just because someone is developing a product doesn’t mean that they have a full grasp on the consequences of releasing said products. For someone who seems so against capitalism, you sure put a large amount of faith in certain capitalists…
AsuhoChinami t1_jebxiof wrote
Reply to comment by SkyeandJett in When will AI actually start taking jobs? by Weeb_Geek_7779
And ChatGPT is weak compared to GPT-4, and GPT-4 will seem completely useless next to GPT-5.
bigbeautifulsquare t1_jebxh99 wrote
Reply to Question about school by SnaxFax-was-taken
Traditional K-12 schooling hasn't worked for a while, not since we moved away from factory jobs. With AGI, it'll be useless.
CrelbowMannschaft t1_jebxepc wrote
Reply to comment by Emory_C in When will AI actually start taking jobs? by Weeb_Geek_7779
Do you have evidence that they're not?
https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2023/03/big-tech-layoffs-2023-twitter-meta-amazon-google
metalman123 t1_jebxb1y wrote
It already is......I'm already not hiring artist for book covers or writers for outlines or call lawyers for small legal disputes.
It's going to be much more noticeable when AI starts taking over call center work.
Countries that outsource that work will be hit hard.
Emory_C t1_jebxape wrote
Reply to comment by CrelbowMannschaft in When will AI actually start taking jobs? by Weeb_Geek_7779
Do you have evidence that the tech layoffs are related to any kind of AI?
Emory_C t1_jebx7my wrote
Reply to comment by 0002millertime in When will AI actually start taking jobs? by Weeb_Geek_7779
Yeah, I can see that happening.
RisingSunset310 t1_jebzh96 wrote
Reply to comment by SkyeandJett in When will AI actually start taking jobs? by Weeb_Geek_7779
Really, companies are looking for applicants with ChatGPT experience?
If that's the case, should I look into this and learn how to use it? Don't it cost money to use?