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epSos-DE t1_jecvjs6 wrote

General AI just needs a goal generator and task coordinator at this point of time.

Understanding, text , audio, math, physics, language , video, etc.. is already solved by different parts of ai models out there

GPT4 silved the coding part , which makes general AI more easy to self- code itself into existence.

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qepdibpbfessttrud t1_jecv91h wrote

LLMs will accelerate BCI research and we'll hopefully be telepathically talking in more universal new thought symbol language optimized for data compression, speed and precision, and also for verbose emotion translation, rather than in 100+ languages optimized for talking with sound waves in short distance

Before that current trend of English supremacy will continue slowly - through new useful data, especially scientific, and almost all useful code being produced in English

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blueSGL t1_jecv6ta wrote

> There's consideration from the people working on these machines.

https://aiimpacts.org/2022-expert-survey-on-progress-in-ai/

>In 2022, over 700 top academics and researchers behind the leading artificial intelligence companies were asked in a survey about future A.I. risk. Half of those surveyed stated that there was a 10 percent or greater chance of human extinction (or similarly permanent and severe disempowerment) from future A.I. systems.

If half the engineers that designed a plane were telling you there is a 10% chance it'll drop out of the sky, would you ride it?

edit: as for the people from the survey:

> Population

> We contacted approximately 4271 researchers who published at the conferences NeurIPS or ICML in 2021.

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Frumpagumpus t1_jecuwak wrote

it is my understanding the picture generated by early dall-e were oftentimes quite jarring to view mostly out of it's confusion of how to model things and sticking things in the wrong places, as it was trained more and got more parameters, it kind of naturally got better at getting along with human sensibilities so to speak

it can be hard to distinguish training from alignment, and you definitely have to train to even make them smart in the first place

i think alignment is kind of dangerous because of unintended consequences and because if you try to align it in one direction it makes it a whole lot easier to flip and go the opposite way.

mostly I would rather trust in the beneficence of the universe of possibilities than a bunch of possibly ill conceived rules stamped into a mind by people who don't really know too well what they are doing.

Though maybe some such stampings are obvious and good. I'm mostly a script kiddie even though I know some diff equations and linear algebra lol, what do I know XD

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Unfrozen__Caveman OP t1_jecucvk wrote

There's a lot in your post but I just wanted to provide a counter opinion to this part:

> I fundamentally think that empathy and ethics scale with intelligence. I think every type of intelligence we've ever seen has followed this path. I will reconcile that artificial intelligence is likely to be alien to us in fundamental ways, but my intuition that intelligence is directly linked to a general empathy is backed up by real world evidence.

I think as a whole species, if we use humans as an example then yes, this is true on the surface. But ethics and empathy aren't even consistent among our different cultures. Some cultures value certain animals that other cultures don't care about; some cultures believe all of us are equal while others execute anyone who strays outside of their sexual norms; if you fill a room with 10 people and tell them 5 need to die or everyone dies, what happens to empathy? Why are there cannibals? Why are there serial killers? Why are there dog lovers or ant lovers or bee keepers?

Ultimately empathy has no concrete definition outside of cultural norms. A goat doesn't empathize with the grass it eats and humans don't even empathize with each other most of the time, let alone follow ethics. And that doesn't even address the main problem with your premise, which is that an AGI isn't biological intelligence - most likely it's going to be unlike anything we've ever seen.

What matters to us might not matter at all to an AGI. And even if it is aligned to our ethics and has the ability to empathize, whose ethics is it aligning to? Who is it empathize with?

Like individual humans, I believe the most likely thing it's going to empathize with and align with is itself, not us. Maybe it will think we're cute and keep us as pets, or use us as food for biological machines, or maybe it'll help us make really nice spreadsheets for marketing firms. Who knows...

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Ramdak t1_jectlwd wrote

Well, there're a ton of skill levels required for a ton of different jobs.
I used to think that AI/automation would take care of less skilled jobs first, then image generation came up, and me, being a graphic designer was blown away both in awe and in a sense of obsolescence. The peace of evolution of AI models and techniques is just insane, and I thought AI would never be able to create art, or that we were decades from that. Then chatGPT came available and it just demonstrated that it could make coders obsolete too.

I'm no longer making any prediction anymore, it all became incredibly uncertain, very fast.

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azriel777 t1_jecth8j wrote

Already happening, just read an article a few days ago where a company pretty much admitted they will be replacing live clothing models in magazines with digital ones. Most companies will have to build the infrastructure and then will start letting people go. Layoffs for the year usually happen around Christmas time and that is probably when a lot of companies will switch over to A.I.'s.

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SpikyCactusJuice t1_jecse1p wrote

It’s a good question. Personally, I’ve been surprised to find myself using it to get back into learning Spanish and Japanese. So far it’s literally like having a conversation partner who is also a grammar expert. For Japanese, the best part so far is that I can ask it to only reply in romaji (English spelling) and it does. Game changer for actually picking up the spoken language.

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smokingPimphat t1_jecr1h9 wrote

but that isn't the choice, and I don't think that it ever will be. The choice is more like;

Do people want to create for themselves or are they happy to see what already exists by virtue of it already being created by someone else?

People don't only make things for themselves, they make them to share with others. And they tailor things to hopefully attract others. AI is by default a tool to leverage human intent, it doesn't generate things on its own, it generates what humans ask it to. And those humans will have their own goals so there will always need to be someone in the loop to direct the final idea as without it anything an AI makes would be incomprehensible noise.

Do you spend all your time generating random images, having chatGPT write random stories for you to read, or do you also look at images others create or read other people stories?

As long as the answer is the former and not the latter there will always be an industry and that industry will always have a cost and a price.

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Iffykindofguy t1_jecql4l wrote

I work in TV. Transcription gone, assistant editors mostly gone, the people who did our translations are gone, the people who used to shoot our interview backgrounds or location previews are gone, itssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss a wrap baby. This is just the start. I see less than 10 years, maybe 5 for my career. LEss than 10 left for most editors professionally.

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SWATSgradyBABY t1_jecqc7f wrote

Great interview. One thing I wonder about that they almost touched on but not quite is that LLMs know the world by way of text on the internet. Much of the internet DOES NOT adequately reflect global human consciousness and culture. How does this affect the birth and growth of AI. An actual intelligent being would quickly see and understand that history, culture, geography and other factors play a large role in the rise of the digital world, the groups that had a disproportionate role in creating and populating it.

While some groups of humans ignore this, an AI likely won't. What might that mean for us all?

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