I'm pretty close to those tech layoffs — half my social circle works for a couple of tech companies and been on the chopping block — and those have absolutely nothing to do with AI. I promise you. Its greedy shareholders getting nervous when they see other companies downsizing and then deciding to literally copy them out of fear that the other companies know something they don't. That's prettymuch it. No secret AI conspiracy, I can promise you that. Its horrible and disgusting but nothing about it is tied to AI.

AI isn't a thing that is talked about very seriously in those tech teams; its not making any sort of serious entry into the industry yet that I can see — check tech subreddits and they're not concerned about it yet. There's a clear reason why — "No code" tools have actually existed for decades already — and AI is competing with those, not with developer jobs. In short: this threat has been made against our jobs for about 2-3 decades already and never actually replaced many jobs.

>the idea that fewer coders with AI tools can be more effective then more coders without them probably is a factor that companies are taking into account.

I'm a coder and the sorts of tools you're talking about aren't really making any sort of entry into our industry yet. Closest to that is probably Github Copilot and that's not exactly replacing developers at any noticeable scale.

Its going to replace a lot of our basic tasks very soon when it gets a tighter integration with our tooling as you say. I am excited about that and welcome it. I think the conclusion that everyone then draws — that its going to upend the industry by replacing most developer jobs — is a huge huge huge leap of faith tbqh.

I personally believe that AI has just as much potential to CREATE dev jobs because if AI can make us more productive all that will change is that we will build better more secure software. And more side projects will actually get built — which those companies can sell. I think people outside our industry don't seem to realise any code project has a nearly infinite backlog and if we can chew through tasks in that pipeline more efficiently then that is only going to make us MORE attractive hires for companies — rather than cutting jobs I think companies will see more reason to hire more of us since we will be that much more productive and delivering value. Those who assume it will replace us I think don't really understand software development and the fact that its never really "done".

If you can talk, then you can talk to your dog whenever it is near, but if you hear your dog talking back then you may need to lie down for a wee nap.

Today.

I know it just sounds so incredibly lame

There is no stopping it. 2024 will make 2023 look like prehistory

I supplied multiple links to actual sources, all you can do is talk about blacksmiths and bows. This isn't D&D. Get out of the fucking basement. Come with citations.

>talking to you is like a brick wall. I'm done.

And yet, you're back with:

>you can't make a half decent argument so you result to insults and running away lmao.

hm. Where are your sources again?

It's interesting - I work in AAA games and work with a lot of clients. They are deathly silent on any kind of AI integration so far. So it will be interesting to see when this starts coming down the pipe.

There are actually a lot of Chinese AI risk research, but they haven't been translated to English.

Here's some links:

https://chinai.substack.com/p/chinai-156-ai-risk-research-in-china

https://80000hours.org/career-reviews/china-related-ai-safety-and-governance-paths/

https://carnegieendowment.org/2022/01/04/china-s-new-ai-governance-initiatives-shouldn-t-be-ignored-pub-86127

Because once the power comes, so does the money and corrupting influence on humans

Tiktok is the most powerful brainmelting weapon ever created.

I think we would be foolish to assume it is only taking jobs and not creating plenty too.

Especially at this early stage when its so incredibly unreliable or outright lying to people.

The only stories I'm seeing so far in the tech industry is the massive inefficiencies and problems people relying on this tech are causing for companies right now, in particular a lot of support teams are hiring for a lot of new roles to deal with the suddenly hugely increased volume of chatGPT-created problems they're now having to deal with.

eg "chatGPT told me your product does X but I can't work out how" "Well, chatGPT is wrong, our product DOESN'T do that, not even close" is apparently a HUGE issue in tech support teams right now that didn't really exist at such scale before.

I learned it needs to be open source.. So we can have some control. Bias Is inevitable, so it's best to allow everyone the ability to program in their own bias.

It’s really hard to watch people cheering on AI for taking over the kind of work that I’ve spent years practicing to get good at, building my networks, clawing my way up the ladder to finally have decent income after 20 years.

Photo shoots, art direction, creative project management, content production and copywriting, marketing strategy and programs… this is what I do since being a fine artist is a passion project. Seeing society completely devalue art and artists makes me feel like we’re losing our humanity.

I wish I could just pivot to using these tools and being excited about it but instead it’s like mourning.

Won't happen. If you stop A.I. in the U.S. then it just puts us way behind other countries.

It’s not the AI going rogue that people are concerned about. It’s about people using the AI for harmful things. That is ridiculous orders of magnitude more likely and more dangerous.

We’re talking about the most powerful tools created in human history, ones that are already at a level to cause mass disruption in dangerous hands.

Whatever gets produced for AI advancement, it won’t be us reaping the benefits. That shit is locked down by the big boys.

Dehumanizing language that equates any disagreement with non-personhood is shitty and you should feel bad for doing it.

This is the kind of mindset that leads to real world violence.

Thats the funniest thing I had seen all month 😂😂😂😂

Earlier chatbot versions already reduced call center employment.

It’s how you dehumanize people you don’t like.

you can't make a half decent argument so you result to insults and running away lmao. Very annoying type of person.

>And Xi Jinping's Government knows this. It sees AI as an economic game-changer, something that will "profoundly change human social life and the world".
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>"By 2030, we shall make artificial intelligence theory, technology, and application at the world's leading level," the Chinese Government said in its top-level AI plan.

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this was 2018. Xi ordered a politubro study on how China could pursue leadership in AI and has been focusing on it since.

Every thread was just a circlejerk saying ELON BAD!!!! So pointless.

I never understood this. I've had redditors provide me with great research. I've even had a redditor give me a well paying job. You get what you put into it, maybe you should think about yourself.

China's Great Firewall uses AI to catch and ban stuff the CCP doesn't find kosher. There's a war in the background between Chinese coomers trying to get their porn and the firewall AI trying to ban that stuff. Here's a summary post. So the CCP already extensively uses AI for their power. I don't exactly know how this maps to their ideas about AI Safety, but they've widely deployed AIs into the wild already.