Recent comments in /f/singularity

KaptainKraken t1_jee9yyw wrote

Gpt summarized of above

"The development of AGI is a race between governments and corporations, driven by consumer demand for better products and services. Unlike the arms race, AGI development can occur largely in secret, and attempts to slow it down would be futile and could lead to being outpaced by rivals. The race poses significant risks, and if we continue on our current path, it could result in global disruption and potentially even nuclear war between nations."

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1II1I11II1I1I111I1 t1_jee9x9f wrote

Watch this interview with Ilya Sutskever if you get the chance. The chief engineer (the brains) of OpenAI. If you read between the lines, or even take what he says at face value, it seems to him like there are very few hurdles between the paradigm of scaling LLMs and achieving AGI. We're very clearly on track, and very clearly the pace is only increasing. Unless regulation slows down AGI, it's most likely here before 2030.

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ConstantQuestion101 t1_jee8hhd wrote

dude Lol i think I'm replying to you again because i had the same stupid fear.

that doesn't happen, period.

police there are actually friendly as fuck and i even got to smoke a few cigarettes with a couple of them while sheltering from a storm in a fruit shop lol

if you can speak a little chinese or make friends with locals (my case) you will be able to solve a lot of your misconceptions about the country.

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ConstantQuestion101 t1_jee85s1 wrote

it was mind blowing visiting a few cities in China. My first time in big cities where i didn't see a single homeless and didn't have to deal with that guilt.

was also cheap and extremely well received by everyone.

after my first time, I've been there three more and honestly loving asia more and more.

a lot you hear about china in western media is laughed about by them because it's straight up nonsense antichinese propaganda.

just go man, I bet you will absolutely love it.

im going at least once this year again to visit a different city, hopefully will be able to make two trips but that's another story.

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nobodyisonething t1_jee7ucf wrote

It has already impacted the gig economy jobs. Generating awesome graphics using Midjourney is cheap and using DAL-E via bing is free. How many artists on fiver are losing traffic because of that? More than zero.

And my understanding is that some text writing fiver-level jobs are already gone too. Generating good text with ChatGPT is free and already available.

We are just at the start.

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jlowe212 t1_jee7ruk wrote

If by overhype you mean looking for sentience or a tool to solve all the world's problems, then yes its just hype and will be for a long time, if not forever.

If you're looking for a tool that takes productivity and information gathering to a whole new level, it's not hype at all. It'll be the biggest leap forward since cheap PCs and the internet.

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genericrich t1_jee7j2r wrote

Killing humanity right away would kill them. Any ASI is going to need people to keep it turned on for quite a few years. We don't have robots that are able to swap servers, manage infrastructure, operate power plants, etc.

Yet.

The danger will be that the ASI starts helping us with robotics. Once it has its robot army factory, it could self-sustain.

Of course, it could make a mistake and kill us all inadvertently before then. But it would die too so if it is superintelligent it hopefully won't.

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FlatulistMaster t1_jee78ml wrote

This is true for that type of experiment, but some things can be developed in hours if only information processing is involved.

Also, the prediction power of an ASI would be something completely different than what humans are capable of, so it is fair to assume that unnecessary experiments will not be as plentiful.

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NonDescriptfAIth t1_jee75o3 wrote

AGI research is a race. If we run. We die.

Unlike the arms race that lead us to nuclear weapons, the development of AGI can occur largely in secret, both at a corporate and government level.

Even if there is a "successful" call to throw the brakes on current corporate AGI software development. The global infrastructure that drives all the other developments in the digital space will continue to roll onwards.

Chips get smaller. Data gets accrued and cleansed. Software becomes more intricate. The science of cognition more well understood.

There is no need for a Manhattan project. For this arms race we don't need behemoth underground facilities enriching uranium, instead we have a decentralised army of humans purifying data as they complete captchas to access their email.

This isn't even without ruminating on what unknown developments are taking place within the military backed regions of AGI development.

Telling the government to slow down is a non starter, it only opens up the opportunity to be outpaced by a rival state.

Corporations are racing each other.

Governments are racing each other.

Consumers are driving it forward by demanding ever better products and services.

Money, time and effort is being thrown at this singular goal like nothing ever before.

If aliens were to stand back and objectively sum up the activities of the human race. This would be it. This is what takes precedent above all else.

We don't care about climate change. We don't care about poverty. We don't care about leisure.

We want to make that chip smaller and faster and smarter than us. That is the sum goal of the human endeavour.

We are already locked in a race. A race in which crossing the finish line 'incorrectly' might mean that all participants lose.

I am often exasperated at the language that surrounds the possibility of AGI development going wrong.

Many act as if this race ending in global disruption is unlikely. There are some that think this won't even effect employment opportunities that significantly.

Allow me to be incredibly clear. If we continue on the path we are on. We will die.

China will either pre-emptively strike the US with nuclear weapons out of fear they are nearly complete with their development of AGI.

Likewise the US would not tolerate the prospect of an artificial super intelligence that operates under the instruction of the Chinese communist party.

Think that's unrealistic?

Fine, lets assume that America has the advantage and sneakily unleashes it's AGI on the globe without sparking a thermonuclear Armageddon.

Well what exactly will they ask the AGI to do? We are racing towards the construction of a tool for which we have no clear and defined use of.

Do you think the US military industrial complex will be satisfied with unleashing a trillion dollar digital mind on the world without specifying that it prioritize the lives of it's own citizens above the lives of others?

Don't think that's a big deal?

That there is an all knowing, all powerful entity that prioritizes the lives of some over the lives of others?

The only distinction between God and Satan is that God is all loving and Satan is not.

We must tread carefully on what we unleash on ourselves.

Must I continue to explain how corporations won't likely have the greater good in mind if they cross the finish line first either?

The most powerful algorithms in existence today are the likes of YouTube, TikTok and Meta. All of which generate profit by leveraging our internal dopamine pathways against us. The only goal of the most powerful AI systems that we interact with us is to steal away our lives with consecutive shitty videos.

There is no stopping this race. We are collectively gunning for a hard take off as fast as possible.

Our only chance of survival is make sure that the super intelligent God that we create is a kind one. Not a sociopathic machine specifically tasked to kill and exploit human beings.

The only way we can achieve this is by having a global dialogue about what we want this AGI to do for humanity.

Without a global alignment on the goals and formulation of this entity, we are certain to bake into it our own flaws, our human paranoia and aggression and indifference.

Yet this is exactly where we are heading at break neck pace.

If you want to help change this reality, drop me a message and we can start planning.

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