He already didn't say "are" but "tend to be".

You didn't fix it, you said the same thing.

Not going to happen. I don't see how employers are just going to somehow reach a conclusion that they will pay people livable salaries to work less and only when they want. Inventions like dishwashers and washing machines simply allowed people to wash more things more often. As a result, there's not much of a gain in overall time savings. The more realistic scenario is that employers will expect even greater productivity from fewer workers.

Yea, I have an 8yo myself and as I try thinking about planning for his future it's a bit unsettling realizing that I have no idea what the world is even going to be like when he graduates from High School. What kind of jobs will be left for him at that point? No one knows.

Yes, I think that a joined "AI Manhattan project" between all major countries in combination with a global moratorium on AI research beyond current levels, enforced through a combination of methods including hardware regulations is the most realistic path to (likely) survival.
I am aware that it is unlikely to play out this way, but I still think this is the most realistic scenario that isn't a completely Hail-Mary gambling with everyone's life.

This isn't realistic now, but it might become realistic if we begin preparing it.
Enforcing regulations on OpenAI today would probably buy us a bit of time, either for preparing this solution, finding new solutions in AI alignment, or a new strategic general approach.

I just had a meeting yesterday with a client who needed a modification to a specific module of code. That module of code was using data from a SQL report whose fields had a name that was identical to the variable name in the module, but was actually a concatenation and subsequent truncation of two fields. ChatGPT would not have seen that and confidently spat our garbage that would have taken longer to figure out than just a rudimentary technical analysis.

I'm starting conversation around it. Are you saying we should only look at one side of the argument?

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An economic pivot due to automation replacing jobs wouldn't be the same as a normal economic downturn. It would be a massive increase in production since that's the only way jobs would be replaced and that would generate huge wealth that would likely enable significant demand. We passed basically a UBI (minus the universal part...) bill for COVID for non-essential workers who couldn't work, I would be shocked if we didn't pass a true UBI if automation was really starting to replace massive numbers of jobs. That UBI would generate far more demand especially for anything not automated (which would make it risky if most everything wasn't automated due to inflation).

I'm working on it actually 🙂

Yeah the Optimus bots are moving around doing stuff. This was surely scripted but here it is...

https://youtu.be/2dS0aDMQoD4

Nah, I'm just happy to prove you wrong.

You are correct that animal empathy evolved over the years but intelligence and empathy do share some connections throughout history. As we develop these AI's after ourselves we have to consider the other components of what it is to care and find solutions.

yeah it was kind of a rhetorical question. we likely won't know unless the thing deigns to talk to us and let us know. if it was as smart as we imagine it is, it would pretend to be real dumb, especially in light of the near-sapien hominins we've destroyed in our hunger to carve out our own niche.

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Ship it or zip it

I live in Canada brother, and I'm not asian, i don't understand what you mean

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Great you two should create a separate sub to write your singularity fanfics

Hey good for you. Hope it works out well.

It’s not about the skynet scenario bro, it’s about trusting those governments. We don’t know if they will just provide the bare minimum to survive and since your skills become useless there is no exit, leaving us in precarious situations where only some have access to services. It might send us all tho ghettos, remember humans are still in charge snd they don’t have great track records. They could use that ai to suppress any type of insurrection as well, we are at the mercy of a few decisión makers

There's different types of intelligence. Comparing business intelligence with general intelligence are 2 different things

>No one cares about your predictions

I care.

AI needs to be applicable in custom work settings. For instance, if you want AI to take jobs in a car making factory, it needs to be able to manipulate the physical world (lift and move stuff), and use the niche machinery that would be the factory.

Also AI isn't as trustworthy as a human right now.

We also just need blue collar labor today really badly so thanks for joining the workforce.

My wife works in biochemistry labs (as a PhD) and they seem a ways away from being fully automated though perhaps the actual experiments will be automated (would honestly make me feel better if she didn't need to directly work with dangerous drugs, chemicals, and pathogens where exposure can be lethal, though obviously she takes safety precautions).

Large industrial scale manufacturing is primarily automated, but running smaller scale tests are still highly manual including even the pipetting. I think this will change in the coming years, but I still suspect we're a ways away from not needing a PhD overseeing the projects or coming up with new experiments/hypotheses.

By the time AI can do all of that well I expect automation to have hit most careers.

Similarly unique labor is also a ways away. Coming from a structural engineering background, if you can get into old building renovations that may be the longest standing field that needs human labor since most of the time there aren't drawing packages or anything for those so it's really hard to automate since you need to deal with a lot of possibilities. New construction (especially commercial and industrial since architecture isn't as critical there) will be the first to be automated out of construction.

You may have just coined a new term BAI