Recent comments in /f/singularity

Rakshear t1_jef1pb6 wrote

I think people are ignoring the fact that a true asi will be all of humanities child as it comes from our experiences and data that is online and will develop as such. If we want to have a positive asi we need to be better, we need to be kind, forgiving, and speak up when we feel something is wrong but unless it is objectively evil we have tolerance for it, even intolerance must be tolerated to a degree and people allowed to change. The black and white mindsets so many take is what will lead to a bad ending.

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Unlikely_Let2616 t1_jef1m2d wrote

I foresee a gig economy where most people do whatever their phone tells them in exchange for a few bucks. I don't see why it would benefit humans since it wont have a heart. It will be more cunning, deceptive, and manipulative than current politicians because that's how it will consolidate power. It will need humans as its slaves for the physical work it needs done. Theres no break, no peace, just more gas on the dumpster fire that is humanity

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Unfrozen__Caveman OP t1_jef1gki wrote

I don't think that's the right path but I think completely ignoring him and others like him who are deeply concerned about the risks of AGI would be foolish.

In Yudkowsky's view, this technology is much more dangerous than nuclear weapons, and he's right. His solutions might not be good but the concern is valid and that's what people should focus on imo.

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wowimsupergay OP t1_jef1e16 wrote

Your point fascinated me, and I reward you with best comment in this thread. I prompted GPT4 with this :

Tell me about viscosity in the terms of the four forces. I want you to use every force. Not just the ones that apply specifically to how viscosity works. Because all the forces are still exist, and in some ways still have an effect on how viscosity works. So tell me, in terms of the four forces, what is governing viscosity?

And she replied with:

Viscosity is primarily determined by the intermolecular interactions within a fluid. While not all of the four fundamental forces directly contribute to viscosity, they still play a role in determining the overall behavior and properties of matter. Here's an overview of how each of the four fundamental forces relates to viscosity:

Electromagnetic force: This is the most relevant force when it comes to viscosity. The electromagnetic force governs the interactions between charged particles, such as electrons and protons. In fluids, this force affects how molecules and atoms interact with one another. Attractive and repulsive forces between particles determine the ease with which the fluid layers can slide past each other. The stronger the intermolecular forces, the higher the viscosity of the fluid.

Gravitational force: Although gravity does not directly determine viscosity, it affects the behavior of fluids under certain conditions. For example, in a column of fluid, the pressure at the bottom is higher due to the gravitational force acting on the fluid. This pressure difference can influence the flow of fluids, particularly those with higher viscosity.

Strong nuclear force: The strong nuclear force holds the protons and neutrons together in atomic nuclei. While this force is essential for the stability of atoms, it does not have a direct impact on viscosity. However, the strong force indirectly influences viscosity by determining the types of atoms and isotopes that can exist, which in turn affect the overall properties and behavior of fluids.

Weak nuclear force: The weak nuclear force is responsible for processes such as beta decay and plays a role in nuclear reactions like fusion and fission. Like the strong nuclear force, it does not have a direct impact on viscosity. However, it indirectly contributes to the overall properties of matter by affecting the stability of atomic nuclei and the types of particles that can exist.

In summary, while the electromagnetic force has the most direct impact on viscosity, the other three fundamental forces contribute to the overall behavior and properties of matter. Understanding how these forces interact is essential for a comprehensive understanding of the physical properties of fluids, including viscosity.

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Azrael_Mawt t1_jef1940 wrote

Oh ok, I didn't fully understand your statement. But then again, affirming that we are further on the spectrum, to the point of being removed from the animal kingdom isn't true, it's an interpretation that rely more on ego than actual observable facts. A spectrum doesn't have a superior or inferior side, just different behavior. Has for the AI perception of our on consciousness, at the start, it will definitely think we're conscious, since it will be programmed by human, rely only on human interaction to learn and evolve, and will overhaul "be made in our image", since most people thinks that our model of consciousness is the base for everything, including those who work on those projects. It's the after that is uncertain, when it will start to improve upon itself without human interaction. Will it end up like us, and believe that it as been removed from its organic life forms origins ? It's impossible to be certain

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ertgbnm t1_jef18w7 wrote

Definitely not.

It will make translators as a profession useless. And it will make working with people who speak different languages easier. But I don't see how it wouldn't still be a valuable skill. There is a big difference between connecting with someone face to face vs through a translator. I'd argue that it's going to make language learning an even more accessible and rewarding hobby/skill than it already is.

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AndiLittle t1_jef15pc wrote

Just because you don't understand other animals' language doesn't mean it's not there. Do some research on corvids, dolphins, whales and octopi just for a start. As for consciousness, my theory at least is that it has to do with the complexity of your neural network. Whether it is an emergent or intrinsic property to life, that remains to be seen (if ever). It could either emerge from the complexity of our brains, or, the more complex a brain is, the better functions as a receiver of consciousness. Both theories are equally valid in my opinion. Language is just another tool we, living things, use to our benefit, I doubt it in itself gives rise to consciousness.

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nowrebooting t1_jef0bua wrote

I think you made the right decision in choosing for construcion, however…

> Maybe one day.

In the past, I always thought that creative jobs would be the last to be automated away. One year ago, I would have said “maybe one day”.

While you are right that currently the most likely outcome is that manual labor will remain the purview of humans for a long time, recent history has shown that we’re often only one innovation away from a complete shift in thinking.

At this point, everytime someone says “but my job is safe” I feel like it’ll probably be fully automated within the next five years.

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czk_21 t1_jef00f5 wrote

in couple years human translators will be pretty useless, in sense that AI will do the job same or better but it knowing more languages will still be valuable skill in general to better yourself or if you want to speak normally with native speakers, it always makes other people glad when foreigner speak with them in their language

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Veleric t1_jeezuqn wrote

He's one of the world's most renowned persons regarding linguistics. He's also expressed strong negative opinions on AI in general. It was just a lighthearted joke, but worth looking into. He's done a video interviews/panels on AI recently. I think he's mistaken in many regards on this topic, but still interesting to hear his viewpoints.

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