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s1ngular1ty2 t1_j282czr wrote
We have seen this already. We also have seen stars collapse into black holes. Not sue what you expect to come of this...
We can't observe it directly because objects in space are VERY far away and small. We can however see that there was a supernova and the star is gone and now there appears to be a feeding black hole because there are massive jets coming out of where the star used to be or a blank spot where it used to be.
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axialintellectual t1_j282cj3 wrote
Reply to comment by nova9001 in China reveals ambitious plans for Asia's largest optical telescope | The new telescope will have an aperture of 19.7 feet (6 meters) by 2024 while its mirror will be expanded to 26.2 feet (8 m) by 2030. by chrisdh79
I have issues with the author, yes, but I also genuinely have some issues with the way NAOC (seem to) approach this, however hard that apparently is to believe.
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Reply to Just back from witnessing a test firing of a rocket motor that my neighbor built by goatharper
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RocketPop32 t1_j282af3 wrote
Reply to Likely-hood of becoming an astronaut by MisFitLoves
Jose Hernandez applied 12 times before he was accepted as an astronaut. Get qualified and be persistent.
IvanAfterAll t1_j2829w7 wrote
Reply to comment by hidden-in-plainsight in What if an object crosses an event horizon of a black hole... by Cthaeh420
But what if you tie the string to a little piece of Hawking radiation? Checkmate, atheists.
Polynikes82 t1_j2828xa wrote
Reply to comment by impakkted in Black hole question by Impossible_Pop620
"Black holes are where God decides by zero"
the_fungible_man t1_j2826k3 wrote
>couldn't we just watch the neutron star until it gains enough mass to become a black hole?
Sure. You got a few million years? Patience is a virtue.
NotAHamsterAtAll t1_j28205v wrote
Hmm... If my understanding of our best theory to date is correct (and the theory is correct), you probably cannot pull it back, as the direction "back" no longer exists as you pass the event horizon.
In reality the line would snap.
PoppersOfCorn t1_j281ntw wrote
The timeframe, distances.
Also, there have probably been detections of the formation of black holes by LIGO and VIRGO when they have felt the gravitational waves from neutron stars colliding.
s1ngular1ty2 t1_j281ktn wrote
Reply to comment by Xethinus in Time dilation and death to black holes by AnOriginalMan405
Nope. You only appear to be part of the event horizon to a distant observer. You actually travel to the center of the black hole and are crushed and die. It is inevitable because all paths inside a black hole flow to the center. It is actually impossible to not reach the center. Even if you change direction you reach the center. It is as inevitable as time itself. Trying to go out of the black hole is like going back in time and so is impossible.
You are confusing what a distant observer sees to what happens to you.
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Reply to comment by mrmaweeks in Just back from witnessing a test firing of a rocket motor that my neighbor built by goatharper
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WittyUnwittingly OP t1_j281je9 wrote
Reply to comment by The-Temple-Of-Iron in What is our current "best guess" about how to observers that entered a black hole on opposite sides would look to each other once they crossed the event horizon? by WittyUnwittingly
So I'm not sure about all this, but I do have an MS in optics, so I do have a firm grasp on optical communication and dispersion and such things.
The "infinitely blue shifted" light that would be incident on you from everything "outside" would not contain any causal information (a pulse that was originally 101, would now have all of those in superposition - the original message could have been 110, 101, or 011, and you wouldn't be able to tell the difference).
You'd be receiving all of the radiative energy that the black hole ever gobbles up after you instantaneously. So, any temperature calculation you'd do would just yield infinity, including a speculative black body radiation calculation (infinitely blue shifted).
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Reply to comment by tyme in What if an object crosses an event horizon of a black hole... by Cthaeh420
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Xethinus t1_j281ebo wrote
No.
Amateur theory here. Happy to be corrected.
You pass the event horizon and the entire rest of the universe occurs blueshifted indefinitely directly over you. Any event horizon, regardless of the mass, is uncrossable in a finite amount of time. The amount of time it takes for a black hole to evaporate is finite.
You become part of the black hole long enough to become its hawking radiation, and disperse your energy among the...well...
Void.
Chazmer87 t1_j281e1c wrote
Reply to comment by toodroot in China reveals ambitious plans for Asia's largest optical telescope | The new telescope will have an aperture of 19.7 feet (6 meters) by 2024 while its mirror will be expanded to 26.2 feet (8 m) by 2030. by chrisdh79
I'm surprised we haven't seen more
Minimum_Box4491 t1_j281cpo wrote
Reply to Documentaries on Columbia shuttle? by Worthy_Planet375
“Seconds From Disaster” (a Nat Geo series). There’s an episode on Columbia.
Not sure where you can find it though - try on YouTube or somewhere else on the interwebs.
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cubnextdoor t1_j2817r9 wrote
I thought anything entering a black hole would get immediately torn apart like spaghetti.
KashmirChameleon t1_j2816nv wrote
As objects approach the black hole (event horizon), they speed up to near the speed of light. At which point, their mass is greatly increased.
Basically you would need an impossible amount of energy to pull anything out of a black hole, if it were hypothetically possible.
The-Temple-Of-Iron t1_j2816ac wrote
Reply to comment by triffid_hunter in What is our current "best guess" about how to observers that entered a black hole on opposite sides would look to each other once they crossed the event horizon? by WittyUnwittingly
Thank you! That is really interesting and I'm definitely about to go down a rabbit hole on this. I appreciate that!
Shod3 t1_j2814n3 wrote
Reply to comment by Gandalf2000 in NASA mulls SpaceX backup plan for crew of Russia’s leaky Soyuz ship by jivatman
? Quote “we already had the MOVIE in 1991” ? Sounds like he was talking about a movie
triffid_hunter t1_j2810g5 wrote
Reply to comment by The-Temple-Of-Iron in What is our current "best guess" about how to observers that entered a black hole on opposite sides would look to each other once they crossed the event horizon? by WittyUnwittingly
> Temperature is a measurement of vibrations in particles essentially.
That's the entry-level understanding of it in matter, but the scientists have come up with new better understandings based on entropy - which is how we end up with negative temperatures that are hotter than any positive temperature, and exist in lasers.
> Mathematically time stops in a singularity. If that is so then, in my incredibly layman-style interpretation, Temperature is physically the same as absolute 0 K.
Nope - particles' momentum is related to temperature, and they keep their momentum if you stop time - they can't move anywhere because no time is passing, but their velocity is still non-zero.
This is quite distinct from particles inhabiting the lowest possible energy state (ie being at absolute zero) where they don't move (or do weird stuff) even though time is passing
FinnishArmy t1_j280w9p wrote
This video explains it very well.
Your object isn't a unified object. But these are all theories. The part of the object passing the event horizon would either split apart from the atoms not in the event horizon or explode. But no-one can really truly know.
___77___ t1_j282euw wrote
Reply to Why can't we observe the formation of a black hole? by Jebusfreek666
Now you see your it, now you don’t.
Would be nice to see a neutron star popping out of existence like that. The main problem would be time, money, patience, and the doubtful future of mankind.