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A robotic mission is a far cry from sending people to the Moon. It did not follow a similar sequence to an Apollo mission...but rather the Surveyor and Ranger missions. Don't get me wrong, these are impressive technical accomplishments, but there is a whole lot more to get done.

And claiming that China is going to establish a long term base may be a goal, but the technical accomplishments that need to be done is so immense that it boggles my mind to think of what will be needed. Apollo only had people staying on the Moon for three days. Anything longer than about two weeks is genuinely still in the "infancy" stage and you are fooling yourself if you think it is otherwise.

I admire the determination, but isn't it funny that I get so much hate simply by saying China isn't perfect?

I'll also say that CCTV is not really followed because it is propaganda and so biased against anybody but China that it is largely a joke outside of China. I would dare say it isn't credible as a news source other than to see what the official government position of the Chinese government and the Chinese Communist Party happens to be at any time.

Elon you are doing great things. Please stop drunk tweeting.

It's definitely true when talking about a complete luxury we definitely don't need to live, or will be useful in our lifetime. Healthcare, infrastructure, and education? Not so much.

Indeed. On top of that, clean water is not that hard to come by with enough energy.

Clean energy is and will be the underlying bottleneck (and no, fusion won't be the answer to that for many more decades; we'll have to solve this long before then).

someone saw that kurzgesagt video on how to terraform Mars with lasers

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Idiots would be scared ofc, don't be an idiot.

This was actually not as bad as a lot of sites I visit. Only one video playing in the lower right. What I absolutely hate is any website blocking me from going back. Are you sure you want to leave?? Who thought that was a good idea?

I don't live in the same country as you, for starters.

It's been shown, copious numbers of times, just how bloated the medical insurance industry is in the US. Give me my government-funded universal healthcare any day.

Sure, the private industry has some highlights, but it's a mess you guys have over there.

So you ignoring the largest healthcare provider in the country? Last I heard Medicare is covering only 100 million people and with being the largest healthcare provider also setting prices.

If you want an examples of how the health industry works when the government is not involved the you can look into Lasik, plastic surgeries and concierge medicine.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eros

Healthcare is something of a natural monopoly. There’s only so many hospitals in an area and only so much time to get to them.

Also uh that whole not having a choice or die thing.

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To be fair, they said that private market can do everything cheaper and better

Doesn't mean that it always will. Especially if it's allowed to run free like the US health industry has been

Not true. The health industry would like a word.

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Agreed. Probes are over engineered for this (makes sense, you don’t want to spend so much on something that’ll just break down and become useless), so they’re gonna last. :)

If SpaceX is good for anything it’s to prove that the private market can do everything cheaper and better than the government.

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Cost of transportation and emissions from the vehicles to get it there would be massive.

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