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michiness t1_j34m0rc wrote

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mynextthroway t1_j34l3d8 wrote

I agree with you. Most areas have an undesirable aspect. Those that don't probably don't have desirable aspects, lol. I would love to visit. California has much to offer. My area is prone to oppressive heat and humidity, along with tornadoes.

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Reddit-runner t1_j34kyap wrote

>The SLS Block 2 can get 46 tons to Heliocentric orbit, for $2billion

Bold of you to assume SLS could achieve that "low" cost in its still in development Block 2 configuration...

And then you only have the rocket. You still have to buy the capsule, all the other hardware you need and then you have to pay for the mission support. No way such mission could cost less than $5B.

But SLS B2 could actually launch a Webb equivalent without the need of folding the segmented mirror. This would make development and manufacturing much less costly.

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>if Starship design and TPS flow proves it can handle Lunar return velocity hypersonic reentry, possibly much less depending on the numbers.

For a repair mission, yes. That would be the most cost effective way to keep Webb in service. If Starship can be crew rated for such a trajectory.

However Starship could also push the double the mass as SLS B2 towards L2 without even the need of even being reusable for such a trajectory. This would mean a 100 ton telescope with a 8.5m diameter launched for less than what Ariane5 costs.

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Imagine how many 8.5m telescopes we could launch into deep space for $10B if each could weigh 100 tons. No need for miniaturisation anymore, no exotic metals to keep it light... At least 10 I reckon.

For 20 years we could launch one Hubble or Webb equivalent telescope every other year.

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mynextthroway t1_j34kc7a wrote

Yes, I have. Traveled out of the country as well. I would actually like to visit California. The state looks magnificent.

"So basically you claim " look at all my comments. Flood, snow, drought, and fire comments are backed by state of California data.

This is the second time I have pointed out to you that I included links to data supporting my opinion.

As I said in my original response and the response that triggered you, it is a childhood opinion, based on facts that I have posted links to.

If you read all of my comments, drought is where California is heading.

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peanutsfordarwin t1_j34icfu wrote

Well, I'm not offended. I've lived in Cali 62 years.. from orange county to del Norte County. And places inbetween like fresno county. And I've seen drought, extreme drought to out of drought. Just my personal perspective. I've seen the mud slides from 1967 I've seen the fires in shasta county 2019 thru present. I've seen the big ice shove in Minnesota that's no fun . Hurricanes and tornadoes in Florida and Texas. Tornadoes in Missouri and Arkansas. Flooding, fires, drought in Colorado. So most places especially now with the climate changing there is really no place that doesn't have its fair share of devastation. Me, I do love the state of California. It's rivers, lakes, Forrest it's desert. It's magnificent ocean. It's progressive. It's high taxes, and out priced homes. It has the 7th largest economy in the world. It Can always be improved but, who's state couldn't? anyone who lives here who can't be loyal to California should move to somewhere they can love it everday.

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yg2522 t1_j34i36a wrote

So basically you claim doom and high water and wondered why anybody would want to go and live in California without actually experiencing anything yourself from the place you are criticising.... man have you ever even traveled out of your state?

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mynextthroway t1_j34doha wrote

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mynextthroway t1_j34ctaa wrote

Northern California and Southern California are so different in environment and politics they could easily be 2 states.

California drought cycles are huge and extreme. The last 150 have been very wet, yet there was a 200 year drought about 500 years ago that was worse than what we are seeing today. As dry as the last 20 years have been, it needs to continue for another 100 years to get California back to its long-term normal.

I would still love to visit. 200 years is way past my expiration date.

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mynextthroway t1_j34b01e wrote

Reread my comments. Now read them again. This isn't my personal experience. It's what I saw on the news in the 80s. Look at the post. See the blue words? Those are links to data from the state of Caliirnia that support what I claimed to have seen on the news. See the link to the Sierra Nevada snowfall? See how low relative to average it is becoming? That snow pack is where LA gets a lot of water. LA might have nothing but pretty weather, but LA is getting thirsty.

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Perfect-Scientist-29 t1_j34a535 wrote

Not sure what data you are using to make that claim. Webb cost $10billion to build and launch to L2 on a 90s rocket that cost at most €139 million at the high end. Segmented mirrors are even better suited for orbital assembly than Hubble style single mirror (See the Webb successor now underway). The total cost to service Hubble the last time with the shuttle and crew of 7, was $900 million and greatly increased Hubble's capacity to take measurements/with greater sensitivity (See the initial Hubble deep field and compare it to the later ultra deep fields). Webb has a docking collar on it (though mainly used for the launch), and engineers made it strong enough to be used for servicing if such scope was added to the mission. The bus is simple, minimal servicing would require mainly topping off of the RCS tanks and possibly reaction wheel replacement. L2 is 1.5 million kilometers, relatively nearby, and even conserving every oz of fuel after launch only took it 29 days to reach it, decelerate, and park with 2-3x the minimum amount of fuel for a full mission. Artemis is rad hardened for that part of deep space (Sadly dragon is only designed assuming the protection of earth's magnetosphere in LEO), and well beyond the moon, and made it on a Block 1 SLS with a 26 ton TLI payload. The SLS Block 2 can get 46 tons to Heliocentric orbit, for $2billion would have the delta v for this, especially using Lunar or earth sling shots to conserve fuel, or if Starship design and TPS flow proves it can handle Lunar return velocity hypersonic reentry, possibly much less depending on the numbers.

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mynextthroway t1_j349sol wrote

No. Not always. The last 150 years have been historically (as in fossil record) wet. 500 years or so ago, there was a 200-year drought that was more in line with the long-term record. The drought from 2000 to now is some of the driest years.

What does all this mean? My original opinion, developed as a child, is that California is either getting flooded, crushed by snow, or having drought fires is backed by state of California data, and the fossil record shows that California has since 800 swung between 200 year droughts and floods.

Yes, I would certainly like to visit. There is so much natural beauty. But judging by all the comments, Californians are easily offended and don't need facts to back their opinion.

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PyramidBusiness t1_j3486je wrote

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mynextthroway t1_j346ugo wrote

Oh, I agree. California looks like a great place, and yes, most parts of the country have natural negatives. I would love to spend 5,6 months just visiting. Adult me sees the whole picture. Kid me says no, lol.

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Haterbait_band t1_j341t0x wrote

So comparatively, it’ll be worse next year. So I won’t really start caring until next year. Unless the year after that is supposed to be worse. In that case I’ll check in every 5 years and try to determine if things are to a point where people actually start watering their lawn less, signifying people that there actually is a water shortage and it’s not just a typical California summer.

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sillykinesis t1_j340abx wrote

You’re speaking out of your ass and getting called out on it. You’re criticizing a state you’ve never lived in or experienced firsthand and dismissing those of us who actually live here. And you’re calling that “hostility.” Mmkayyy

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