will it do anything to refill the water table?

edit: I don’t really get the down votes, maybe it’s because I didn’t do enough of my own research? I am genuinely interested in how we could refill the aquifers. (most effectively by using less water duh)

https://www.nationalgeographic.com/environment/article/the-deceptively-simple-plan-to-replenish-californias-groundwater

I can't read that description nor do I know what a rat looks like.

A horse looks like a gaint rat with a long HAIRY TAIL.

I agree Starship could do the job too, but we cannot say how much it would cost, so used what hard numbers we have for current tech. I started with JWST being a deep infra red observatory already out at L2, at a sunk cost of $9.2-9.7 billion dollar value. Ariane5 is EOL as of last year, and was bought for JWST's original launch schedule before SpaceX even had Falcon Heavy, and will be replaced with the Ariane6 this year for roughly the cost of a Falcon heavy per launch (~$70 million euro), usually for GEO/TLI/Deep space delta V/payload to orbit. Keep in mind these telescopes don't make revenue, they are pure science plays where once new technology is proven, they only change out the essentials needed to keep it operational. Economy of scale and reuse isn't helpful, typically only a few hundred million is spent on the upgrades to extend the life for RCS fuel/solar panels/CCD sensor/reaction wheels. Most of the hubble service missions cost was just the vehicle/crew/training and ops. Also remember 100 tons for starship just to LEO, not GEO, TLI, L2 or helio. You see i mentioned that in my comment above, but you seemed to imply practical examples of hardware that has flown today or where firm cost benifit analysis can be made concretely. Starship hasn't left the atmosphere, doesn't have a life support system, docking bay and hasn't been rad hardened. SLS will end after the lunar gateway is established and will be replaced with newer platforms, but my example was a worst case to show even with 2000 era shuttle spare parts a $1-2Billion service mission for webb could make sense from using proven tech that has already flown as of today. It is totally possible Starship will be cheaper and its TPS fastening system will be able to handle a full launch, but static fires seem to indicate each fire will have the same unexpected shuttle issues with turn around time at least based on how long it takes Starbase to repair starship tiles after each fire. The vast bulk of the cost of the missions was development of the cutting edge equipment that didn't exist for the most part until the telescope itself was proven, and delivery the heavy mirrors/vehicle bus/and fuel to its operational orbit. Look at hubble, 60% of it has been swapped out over the years, but most of it was the easiest to swap out light stuff that is already been successfully deployed. That is why Nasa is asking to see if we cannot use a second stage of a falcon to boost Hubble, even though its an ancient telescope compared to webb its still a hard science workhorse.

They're very different telescopes, how can one be a backup for the other?

Plus the high cost of Power, found this out 2000 - 02 living there. It must be a bit higher now.

But not having solar of various types would be a crime.

Had I put pipes throughout in the walls exposed - I'd never need a hot water heater or furnace. The attached garage was always 220F - and AC in the house set to 80F. Probably typical for most there in Palm Desert.

But at cool off of the night was my Fav'd moment to head to street fair Palm Springs. It's like chilly 48F, but the heat wave from earth is like heated bathroom tiles bathing you in warm air. One would have to pay thousands to sample this lovely effect. Cheers

Your Comment/s are Just Fine.

What we say here isn't going to influence the man on the moon digging out samples of cheese. All this touchy feely Bs is just that, they're still depressed they didn't get what they wanted from Santa Claus when they were five. Still stuck with cracked display 'Speak & Spell'.

Doesn't matter WTH of those who claim living there claim. The State covers close to 800 miles North to South, and none of is related from one end to the other, and I have since early 70's lived there from time to time.

I constantly watch the weather there to help out friends who live in different parts of any threat. Oceanside has been weather station on my app since Day1 1998. Or one could be at Buffalo New York, under 8' of snow, with no way to get out of their house,

or Palm Desert where I lived, and to get the mail barefoot at noon, you better have C02 fire extinguisher backpack, they will burst into flames.

Then of course Big Bear Calif, more snow, but not as cold like 55 below zero like here Northern MN. Where right now a member here is camping in tent in middle of Gun Flint Trail. The other night was barely above zero. That's one tough camper.

Plus the thought of black bears we had on the farm chewing on your toes through nylon isn't my style of chew toy. They've snuck up me in stealth mode before. When you hear breathing before branches cracking, it's stage right, right now. Cheers

I live in TN and racist hillbillies scare me more than a fire. I'd move to Cali if I could afford it.

Yeh... Kind of sucks it is so much at one time.

I made a simple comment based on a childhood opinion that happened to be fact based. I was told "no that didn't happen." I provided background links. Basic response I get- "nuu- uhhh. California is perfect.40 million people can't be wrong. " Sensationalism? Presenting state supplied data is sensationalism? It doesn't get more boring. I'm sorry you're your offended. Other than Alabama Crimson Tide levels of state pride, California looks like a great state to visit.

Skip the left turn at Albuquerque.

Part of it is fear mongering. News reports on doom and gloom, exaggerating the situation, then it rains a bit and it’s fine until next year. It’s a ‘boy who cried wolf’ thing. People still water their lawns, agriculture survives, and golf courses stay green. So even though there was a shortage of water that season, it didn’t affect anyone meaningfully even though the media said it’s the worst drought in history with record breaking heat and blah blah blah. I feel like some objective honesty would go a long way to keep people mindful of things like this but new outlets need clicks so we get exaggeration and fear mongering. When the water company shuts our water off, or they start banning grass lawns, then I’ll start to worry; maybe even move somewhere else.

my uncle sent me some photos of some very large trees that fell in east portal park. pretty crazy.

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When they mean ‘life’ they mean single cell life, and it is actually known that bacterium can survive in the vacuum of space.

I was referring to the phenomenon of large torrential rain dirupting seed banks and causing massive blooms of dormant seed. Followed by extended draughts increasing the risk of large scale fires which is very much a clomate change related phenomenon. I am familiar with human fire over management and its results. This is a bit beyond that.

It has only three of six all-new gyros installed in 2009 still working (and one of those with some issues) - the minimum required for full operations.

You don't seem to want to listen to any of the replies telling you why you are being downvoted, like I said it's not about the data you keep providing, it's the way you are talking and the sensationalism

Smelly stinky repost, rewritten. Here's the 10k /r/space post nine days ago, with link to NASA instead of a failing blog platform: https://www.reddit.com/r/space/comments/zwulb4/nasa_and_spacex_to_study_possibilities_of/

Part of me thought it would be exciting to visit. Try to outrun a fire by diving into a flooding river only to have the river vanish into an earthquake fault. Wait, that was the Land of the Lost.

I didn't understand why people wanted to live in California when I was a child of 10, 11 years old. My opinion didn't change much as I grew older, 15,16, because there really wasn't a need to review this opinion and the news hadn't really changed all that much. As an adult, my opinion of California changed, but the facts of California's rain/snow/drought remained the same.

"Nobody cares if it blah blah" yet they cared to make the OP. Somebody cared enough to comment about "not all at once." Some cared enough to say my recollection didn't happen. I really don't care about today's weather in California. What bothers me most about all of this is that on a science sub, good data supporting my opinion is provided and disregarded by so many. It was a harmless childhood opinion based on facts. It's not that my opinion is being dismissed. It's that it's being dismissed when data is provided to support the opinion. I might as well find an Arizona based MAGA science sub to follow (I know, science and MAGA don't mix) if relevant supporting data is going to be dismissed.

None of this discussion matters if we are going to bring the world extremes such as Pakistan and Somalia into play. Somebody almost always has it worse.

Try that Bugs Bunny reverse psychology on the people south of you, heh.

Yeah, 80s kid, and in the midwest we were taught even then about yearly wildfires, mudslides, earthquakes, etc.

Any chance it'll get more water behind Hoover Dam?

Your original comment was three sentences and the first and last one both were saying how you didn't understand why people live in California. It's just a silly comment based on taking the fear too far, that's why you get downvoted.

Nobody cares if it happened to be raining harder in Cali during that time and what the data shows, because it didn't cause that much chaos like the Pakistan floods or Somalian drought or something really life altering on a mass-scale. Almost all californians were fine then and are fine how, in fact we have other problems most of us would say are bigger.