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[deleted] t1_j42tezj wrote
Reply to A new year theorem by Capadapp
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Bigram03 t1_j42ozmu wrote
Reply to comment by El_Bistro in At NASA, Dr. Z Was OK With Some Missions Failing by Maxcactus
We have difficulty living in Antarctica. Living in space is many orders of magnitude more complex.
We are not close. Even remotely so.
Why risk lives unnecessarily?
TheBeTalls t1_j42op0w wrote
When exploring space, you’re going to have to develop new and high risk technologies and some of them will inevitably fail. That’s how you learn and get better.
Jump_Like_A_Willys t1_j42msm6 wrote
Reply to comment by sfxer001 in At NASA, Dr. Z Was OK With Some Missions Failing by Maxcactus
Even if this were actually said, Apollo 13 was a failure as a mission.
Everyone got back safely, but the contractor who built the cryo tanks dropped the tank, tried to burn off the fuel overnight, unknowingly and accidentally exposed the wiring inside the tank to temperatures that far exceeded the design temperatures, which burned off the protective wire insulation.
That would (months later) result in the liquid oxygen in the tanks being ignited by a spark from the wire.
That was a procedural failure that lead to a moon-landing mission failure.
The point is, failures happen and always will continue to happen -- whether your program wants them to or not.
Jump_Like_A_Willys t1_j42l4ms wrote
Reply to comment by Dozekar in At NASA, Dr. Z Was OK With Some Missions Failing by Maxcactus
Never Trying Never Fails -- By Jerry Smith
El_Bistro t1_j42iqhc wrote
Honestly think that we’re a little too cautious when it comes to space and that’s inhibited us going back to the moon for like 50 years. Shit is gonna go wrong. People will probably die. Everyone sitting on top of a rocket knows they’re in danger.
We’re not going to colonize the solar system without deaths. I like to think the colonization of space is similar to the colonization of the Americas. (Which is an entirely different conversation I know) but the people on those boats knew their chances of death was high, they knew they were never going back to England or wherever, they went anyway. We have to get some of that mindset back if we’re going to Mars and the moon etc.
MJR-WaffleCat t1_j42inen wrote
Reply to comment by Dozekar in At NASA, Dr. Z Was OK With Some Missions Failing by Maxcactus
I mean you could argue that by doing nothing, they failed to do anything, or that they failed to be productive.
And in the scenario you gave, they failed to keep their jobs.
[deleted] t1_j42g99t wrote
Reply to comment by Dozekar in At NASA, Dr. Z Was OK With Some Missions Failing by Maxcactus
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Dozekar t1_j42f6w3 wrote
Reply to comment by dragunityag in At NASA, Dr. Z Was OK With Some Missions Failing by Maxcactus
It's almost like people don't understand how facebook became the place most people get their news, especially the poor.
We could also just fund public news again.
Dozekar t1_j42ezzp wrote
Reply to comment by kobullso in At NASA, Dr. Z Was OK With Some Missions Failing by Maxcactus
This isn't true. I've worked with a lot of motherfuckers that haven't done anything. They never fail, you have to at least try to fail. Their management failed though, by hiring and keeping them there as long as they did. Usually they corrected that failure by firing them.
IndiRefEarthLeaveSol t1_j42ee5z wrote
Reply to comment by robertojh_200 in Milkdromeda. by Acuate187
Dude, you need to write a book. 😯
petersib t1_j42cpp3 wrote
Reply to comment by sfxer001 in At NASA, Dr. Z Was OK With Some Missions Failing by Maxcactus
It was the second one, for the record.
IndiRefEarthLeaveSol t1_j42cmvh wrote
Reply to comment by Jester471 in Milkdromeda. by Acuate187
My brain hurts thinking about this. 🤯
IndiRefEarthLeaveSol t1_j42ci2s wrote
Reply to Milkdromeda. by Acuate187
Just imagine thousands of civilisations are shouting at each other.
kobullso t1_j42b4ah wrote
There is always a quantified and accepted risk of failure. There literally can not be zero risk of failure. You can mitigate but at some point you have to agree what is good enough.
OcculusSniffed t1_j427o48 wrote
Reply to comment by IAmBadAtInternet in At NASA, Dr. Z Was OK With Some Missions Failing by Maxcactus
There are no cheap easily-replacable NASA missions. But yes, there are missions where human lives depend on their success.
Falsedawn t1_j4258rg wrote
Reply to comment by ShredGuru in At NASA, Dr. Z Was OK With Some Missions Failing by Maxcactus
That doesn't mean that we need to compromise safety for expediency or a mission statement. Astronauts accept the risk, but negligence due to some suit saying that you can't fail isn't acceptable levels of risk. In fact, it's external stressors (such as unreasonable expectations) that can directly lead to more mistakes than otherwise would be noted. Sacrificing safety for expediency.
ShredGuru t1_j4217o8 wrote
Reply to comment by Falsedawn in At NASA, Dr. Z Was OK With Some Missions Failing by Maxcactus
Pretty sure if you get as far as being an astronaut, you've already accepted the extremely dangerous nature of your job and the constant possibility of death should anything go wrong at any stage. Going into space is an inherently risky endeavor.
ShredGuru t1_j420sw1 wrote
Yeah, seems reasonable, when you're firing explosive projectiles into the void, things might go wrong sometimes.
dragunityag t1_j41zfiq wrote
Reply to comment by Failingasleep in At NASA, Dr. Z Was OK With Some Missions Failing by Maxcactus
It is kind of funny that reddit constantly complains about news/reporting going to shit and then turns around and gets upset when the few half decent places left want to get paid for their work.
Access_Pretty t1_j41zaul wrote
Good article. Dr Z should go work at Starbase for a bit before full retirement.
Lymond1547 t1_j41xc91 wrote
Reply to comment by lagavulinski in At NASA, Dr. Z Was OK With Some Missions Failing by Maxcactus
If it’s just one article, not unreasonable. But news costs money to produce, it’s not free. And like everything you get what you pay for. If you like their news, it’s reasonable to pay to get it regularly.
Connbonnjovi t1_j41wvox wrote
Reply to comment by lagavulinski in At NASA, Dr. Z Was OK With Some Missions Failing by Maxcactus
Works for me in reader view. Dont open through reddit app, open in a dedicated browser with reader view
Skyhawkson t1_j41wbbk wrote
Reply to comment by Falsedawn in At NASA, Dr. Z Was OK With Some Missions Failing by Maxcactus
Failure is an option if the costs are in dollars and the risk/reward ratio makes sense. Cheap cubesat demonstrators, for example, are usually more valuable done quickly rather than made 800% bulletproof.
When lives or billion-dollar missions are at stake, that's when failure isnt an option.
Grumpy-Greybeard t1_j42ueit wrote
Reply to A new year theorem by Capadapp
Because the first day of the new year starts just after midnight. That's why countries all round the world celebrate new year at different instances.