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Kitchen_Philosophy29 t1_j4cmufr wrote

Reply to comment by SysAdminShow in The multiverse by Manureofhistory

The issue with multiverse is that another universe implies a different set of natural laws.

In order for it to be different at all. Something has to be different. And that means that either somehow universes would effect each other, just be duplicates, or have different physics

Infinity is by definition a never ending loop lol

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Kitchen_Philosophy29 t1_j4cmchj wrote

No... we have statistical proof that it is the way it is. We have zero proof it could arise a different way.

So far the laws of nature don't fluctuate.

Given how we understand the way nature works. Our universe and time is the ONLY way for it to turn out; unless we prove other universes.

Furthermore there is no reason to think we couldnt detect other universes. Some speculate that may be the cause of dark matter. Hell it could explain quantum entanglement.

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Kitchen_Philosophy29 t1_j4clkde wrote

Reply to comment by Whatmeworry4 in The multiverse by Manureofhistory

Nothing. There is no way for us to know what was befote the big bang as of yet.

So its "the beginning"

Just how they have an age in the universe. That is the age because that is what data told us. When we got ol james up there, we had begger data and the age 'increased'

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EponymousPancake t1_j4ck75p wrote

Reply to comment by SysAdminShow in The multiverse by Manureofhistory

> if it exists then you have already won and lost every possible scenario, so the story becomes somewhat pointless

This brings up other interesting ideas though, such as perspectives on nihilism, and whether a meaningless universe is tragic and awful or liberating and beautiful, or all of the above or nothing at all. Characters can be apathetic and depressed in the face of nihilism, or compassionate and optimistic. In an existential vacuum, do people become corrupted or reveal their true selves? I think multiverses can be a good setting for philosophical conflicts

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BlurredOrange t1_j4ck4xc wrote

>> It seems like multiple universes would require a near infinite amount of energy to maintain itself

Why do you think a universe requires energy? Where do you think our universe gets this energy from?

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Durable_me t1_j4cjwx7 wrote

The multiverse can also be an incremental universe.... So just like the Apple time machine backup, it not creates 2 new universes every Plack second, but only creates the differences, so incremental.
In that way, there won't be infinite complete universes, but still all possibilities that happen are possible and can be reconstructed by the incremental data.

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probenation t1_j4chtw8 wrote

I had a little thought experiment about the multiverse. When I first read an article about the multiverse, it was accompanied by a graphic showing how there are multiple dimensions with infinite universes in each. The graphic looked like a layered cake without sides - where each layer was a separate dimension and inside each dimension was the word universes with arrows pointing out into the open sides. I wonder if, instead of a layered cake, it is more like a Russian nesting doll.

So, the thought experiment goes like this:

Imagine if every living thing, from the largest biomass down to the smallest single cell organism, was itself a universe - just of varying size and complexity. If every living thing is a universe, conversely, every universe is a living thing. So, take a different look at our universe, specifically our solar system, and imagine our sun as a nucleus and the planets as electrons. That would make all of "us" technically sub atomic particles riding an electron. Hence, the Russian nesting doll notion. Perhaps, it could also explain the issues we have reconciling classical and sub atomic physics, as the forces of the two dimensions would be butting up against each other.

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feralcomms t1_j4ccd9c wrote

I’ve lived in the multiverse for 5 years when I thought Charlie sheen was dead.

I would also recommend reading David Deutsch’s fabric of reality.

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karma_aversion t1_j4cafq9 wrote

Reply to comment by ReadditMan in The multiverse by Manureofhistory

The various theories point to a multiverse do not all come from science fiction, some are the direct result of observations. Some unexplained patterns to the cosmic background radiation have been attempted to be explained with mutiverse theories, like perhaps the pattern is the remnant of our universe impacting or interacting with another.

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uselessopinionman t1_j4c6vru wrote

crazy i was doing a deep dive on this topic last night here ya go. this has all the mission logs, mission highlights, and even all the rocket and booster tests. it even has logs of when lift off was delayed for 45 mins lol. honestly great read.... bit heavy on the science though so be ready.

https://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/apollo/missions/index.html

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hooray1867 t1_j4c6ucl wrote

I’m with you on this. It’s an interesting idea and certainly fun to dream about. But it has not basis in fact or science. It just an idea to try and determine what caused the Big Bang because our models currently have no explanation for this.

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uselessopinionman t1_j4c2yt2 wrote

I've been on the multiverse idea from a philosophical point of view for a while. For me it's a perspective thing. Our observable universe has a hard limit. Due to expansion anything already out side that bubble will never be apart of it. In that sense there are at least 2 universes the one I am in can see and everything else that i can not. If another being was in another part of space say 50 billion light. Years away, our 2 observable universes could have different localized rules of physics and be fundamentally different.

But then also there is the possibility of overspace as well. In the sense that physics breaks down at the quantum level behaving in ways that are impossible on the macro level. The possibility of an overspace leaves the door open on the multiverse. But who knows

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DolphinWings25 t1_j4c0x4q wrote

All I know for sure is that around every corner of knowledge where we thought we had found the final piece the puzzle, it has proven to be much larger and incomplete.

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