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iron40 t1_j4gehv9 wrote
Reply to comment by DolphinWings25 in The multiverse by Manureofhistory
Yes, and that drives people crazy. Many people get really uncomfortable when they cant explain or define something based on the current science. I can understand it to a degree. How would I feel if I spent decades, or even a lifetime learning a particular set of facts/figures/formulas...only to have them all thrown out the window, or turned sideways by new discoveries or observations? That’s a tough position.
[deleted] t1_j4gefki wrote
Reply to comment by beestc in The multiverse by Manureofhistory
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Manureofhistory OP t1_j4ge0tj wrote
Reply to comment by MankerDemes in The multiverse by Manureofhistory
Certainly, but it doesn’t necessitate a multiverse
FloridaIsHell t1_j4gduuy wrote
Reply to comment by StoykoYovchev in How can I isolate a space colony from Earth completely by StoykoYovchev
Itd take a long time or lots of fuel to do. I recommend using KSP with realism mods to if want believable enough numbers and such for orbital burns
StoykoYovchev OP t1_j4gdmsf wrote
Reply to comment by FloridaIsHell in How can I isolate a space colony from Earth completely by StoykoYovchev
Thank you!
FloridaIsHell t1_j4gdfnc wrote
Orbit exactly on the opposite side of the sun.
danwilan t1_j4gcci0 wrote
Reply to The multiverse by Manureofhistory
They kinda do all this base on math,.. n math without experimentation proved to be misleading at times,. Like may paradoxes that exist,..
MankerDemes t1_j4gc5cq wrote
Reply to comment by Manureofhistory in The multiverse by Manureofhistory
Particles occupying contradictory states simultaneously aren't a measurable symptom? It's seems like you have an awful lot of one-sided skepticism on this matter, have you applied any skepticism to the con-side of your original argument though?
Marine4lyfe t1_j4gb7c3 wrote
Reply to The multiverse by Manureofhistory
I know nothing about Time and Space, but I do remember some kind of Scientist on TV saying that, since space is infinite, there's a 100% certainty that there is an identical planet with someone who looks just like me, or you, living identical lives to us.
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Reply to comment by beestc in The multiverse by Manureofhistory
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mcnathan80 t1_j4gaeou wrote
Reply to comment by beestc in The multiverse by Manureofhistory
The universe strives for balance
Humanity has unbalanced the universe
I don't like where you're going with this.../s
Manureofhistory OP t1_j4g8od4 wrote
Reply to comment by ScottWipeltonIII in The multiverse by Manureofhistory
To address this specifically, of course the multiverse has been around in sci-fi for forever, that being said it has a bigger degree of popular reception due to its presence in popular media. On the other hand it is not accepted as an element of fantasy, where it seems like it should be. I don’t think people like Sean carol are being specifically paid by the mouse to lie, because they wouldn’t need to. If he saw that it was to his benefit to promote the idea in order to support his more valid science work then why wouldn’t he? Think of Francis cricks book Life Itself, a book promoting the utter crap idea of panspermia. He has admitted he only wrote the book because it was present in popular media and would draw attention to him, and thus his valid science efforts. Of course the mouse isn’t giving scientists money to lie. They don’t have to, it can be a silent agreement that benefits both parties.
Manureofhistory OP t1_j4g7pcz wrote
Reply to comment by Fishyonekenobi in The multiverse by Manureofhistory
By definition nothing can’t exist, but that’s because nothing is the placeholder term for non-existence. Conceptually, that doesn’t make it less real right?
kryptek_86 t1_j4g7obm wrote
Reply to The multiverse by Manureofhistory
I don't really understand what you are asking but this is the way I think a multiverse works.
Our universe, or at least the way we can understand it, can be thought of as a 4-dimensional object. The three traditional space dimensions, and the time dimension which forms this 4D object. You could think of it as a 3D cube with infinite length edges that changes with every moment of time (by moment I mean every interval of time, which could be infinitesimal if discrete or perhaps time is continuous, think Calculus).
Each dimension, whether time or space, can contain infinite energy/information (think of the # of points on a line, a 1D object). So if you compare a 3D object (for example a cube) to a 2D object (square) the 3D object is made up of an infinite amount of squares stacked ontop of eachother to create the cube. So the cube has infinitely more information, or space, than the square.
So it's not farfetched that a multiverse would have infinitely more information/energy than the universe.
If you take a cross section of our 4D universe, you'd get a snapshot of the current state of the universe, where time doesn't exist, it's just a 3D object with a vast, or infinite amount of information.
So if you add another dimension to the universe, you'd have infinite iterations of our universe, infinite 4D hypercubes, each describing a unique universe (or maybe it doesn't have to be unique, like the squares that make up a cube).
I don't really know how I feel about a 5D multiverse, as the idea is sorta abstract and maybe it doesn't align with the idea of traditional time and space dimensions. Perhaps it isn't a dimension, but some new factor, which is very chaotic, random, and can explain why there would be infinite universe permutations in the multiverse which causes the existence of parallel universes.
I'll leave it with this: I think the fact that our universe is so precisely tuned for us to be able to exist and ponder about the universe proves that the multiverse exist, and that we are just one of the infinite permutations that have the chance to question about the universe.
vitringur t1_j4g7j9e wrote
Reply to The multiverse by Manureofhistory
Why could there not be infinite energy if there is energy in the first place?
Conservation of energy only applies in closed systems and is not a requirement in general relativity
Manureofhistory OP t1_j4g7gj1 wrote
Reply to comment by [deleted] in The multiverse by Manureofhistory
What would conditions change the number?
Manureofhistory OP t1_j4g7dk1 wrote
Reply to comment by Beginning-Floor9284 in The multiverse by Manureofhistory
Well it stops on either side at one point or another even if a multiverse exists. But then if the multiverse is infinite there’s the issue of infinite regress
Manureofhistory OP t1_j4g75j6 wrote
Reply to comment by f_d in The multiverse by Manureofhistory
That’s interesting but I think the problem with the infinite is the issue of infinite regress, right? So are we thinking of infinite as a sort of shaped vacuity? That would be something like an infinite set, whatever that means. That raises big questions about what we mean when we say infinite.
Manureofhistory OP t1_j4g6wxl wrote
Reply to comment by EnderOfNightmares in The multiverse by Manureofhistory
So more like an infinite set?
Manureofhistory OP t1_j4g6u5v wrote
Reply to comment by Mkwdr in The multiverse by Manureofhistory
This is fascinating thank you
Manureofhistory OP t1_j4g6pig wrote
Reply to comment by Supreme_InfiniteVibe in The multiverse by Manureofhistory
You’re making a “brute fact” argument for the multiverse and then saying it’s unprovable. Why shouldn’t that statement be received as dogmatic or delusional?
Manureofhistory OP t1_j4g6ar1 wrote
Reply to comment by [deleted] in The multiverse by Manureofhistory
I’m fairly certain that the term observer in quantum physics is more of a misnomer. From what I understand it means something more like “conditions”
Manureofhistory OP t1_j4g5zss wrote
Reply to comment by ReadditMan in The multiverse by Manureofhistory
To be fair science fiction can inspire invention, and therefore certain modes of thought. But I do think the multiverse leaves a lot to be desired
Manureofhistory OP t1_j4g5h5p wrote
Reply to comment by Ape_Togetha_Strong in The multiverse by Manureofhistory
I have I was honestly just looking for other perspectives because more than any of his other work it sounds like mental gymnastics coming from him. He’s one of my favorite science writers and thinkers and I’ve collected most of his works, but man I just don’t buy his multiple universes idea or how he defends it
collegefurtrader t1_j4geqgi wrote
Reply to comment by FloridaIsHell in How can I isolate a space colony from Earth completely by StoykoYovchev
What if they launch a relay satellite
Or what if they start picking up signals from our colony on Mars